[Owasp-leaders] [OWASP-chapters] Growing Your Chapter + 90% / 10% Splits

Kate Hartmann kate.hartmann at owasp.org
Wed Nov 19 15:07:44 UTC 2014

Leaders,  this is a great discussion!

The dues for meetup can most definitely be reimbursed from your chapter

When I reached out to Meetup back in early 2014 regarding a corporate
account for OWASP, they were not willing to provide any discounts or group
rates for us.  Instead, they instructed me to create a "Meetup Everywhere"
account for the Foundation.  I did that, and it can be found here:
http://www.meetup.com/OWASP-Foundation/  This "global account" does not
have nearly the same functionality as the individual accounts, but any
chapter is free to use it.

I have again reached out to the team at Meetup to see what can be done for
OWASP at a global scale.  If anyone in the community has a point of contact
for the company, that would be helpful.  I will continue to work on this
along with Kelly Santalucia, our Business Liaison, and Noreen Whysel, our
Community Manager as it is indeed, a true added benefit for our global

Kate Hartmann

On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Timur 'x' Khrotko (owasp) <timur at owasp.org>

> Thanx to this thread I created a meetup group for our chapter
> <http://www.meetup.com/OWASP-HU/>, and w/o doing anything we
> automatically got 40 members within 6 days.
> Wouldn't it be possible to cover the cost of meetup.com (Julian mentioned
> as a cons) from the budget a chapter has on its account of OWASP from
> sponsors?
> In our case it is relevant, since we do not maintain any legal body
> (unreasonable cost and time to have such in Central Europe), thus we handle
> no money. (Now I pay it from my pocket/card.)
> Regards:
> Timur
> On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Julian Berton <julian.berton at owasp.org>
> wrote:
>> As Andrew pointed out OWASP Melbourne chapter has been using Meetup for
>> just longer than a year now. Its not perfect but overall a platform such as
>> Meetup definitely makes managing/growing OWASP chapters much easier for
>> both the leaders and members.
>> Here is a quick list of some of the pros and cons:
>> Pros:
>> - RSVP feature - even though its not 100% accurate it gives indications
>> of numbers for each meetup. also gives us an indication of active members
>> - allows the use of google analytics so we can track page views and
>> growth and how far our marketing efforts have gone.
>> - user friendly interface for adding and viewing chapter meetings
>> - too many features to mention! eg. commenting on meetup, export meeting
>> to calendar, sending updates to select groups of users(i.e. only RSVPed
>> members)
>> - develops a mini social community, more so than a mailing list imo
>> - and the list goes on... can post photos of meetups, allows adding of
>> sponsors logos, option for members to rate and give feedback on meetups, etc
>> - BIG ONE FOR GROWING -  cross promoting of meetup groups. In Melbourne
>> Meetup.com is used heavily by developers, sysadmins etc to host meetups. We
>> use this to get more developers interested and aware of OWASP Melbourne. As
>> an example there is a Melbourne Mobile meetup group (~750 members) which we
>> contacted when we did our meetups on both Android and iOS security. They
>> announced our meetup along with a few other related meetups and we got a
>> massive boost in numbers attending and number of signups. We had ~80 people
>> compared with ~20 people from previous events. Another advantage is that
>> the barrier to entry for existing Meetup members to join other meetups is
>> very low.
>> - more transparent overall, everyone can see how active a meetup is with
>> respect to both number of meetups and number of attendees.
>> Cons:
>> - its not a free service. Costs $89.94 every 6 months :(
>> - new members will have to sign up to Meetup.com to RSVP or get
>> notifications of new meetups, higher barrier to entry (note though that you
>> dont have to sign up to view the meetup details)
>> As far as KPI's of chapter activity are concerned. I am not aware of how
>> its currently done... but once you have signed up to Meetup.com it becomes
>> very much like a mailing list. Also it is not necessary to signup to
>> Meetup.com to view all current and passed meetups (assuming you dont have
>> the meetings set to private). So as long as a link to the meetup page is
>> provided on the chapter wiki this shouldn't be a problem right?
>> Thanks
>> Julian
>> OWASP Melbourne
>> @JulianBerton
>> On 17 November 2014 18:33, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Very cool, Martin. Glad to see meetup working around the world...
>>> Please, no stress here chapter leaders. This is just an option to help
>>> grow your chapter, it's not a requirement that anyone is putting on you.
>>> The chapter handbook is pretty flexible in this area, so I really
>>> encourage you to experiment with ways to grow your chapter.
>>> As a side note, most searches for "OWASP <yourCity>" land at the OWASP
>>> wiki so it's good to keep that page updated or at least pointing to your
>>> meeting service.
>>> Aloha,
>>> --
>>> Jim Manico
>>> @Manicode
>>> (808) 652-3805
>>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Martin Knobloch <martin.knobloch at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> All,
>>> Meet-ups are growing in recognition and are becoming more normal here in
>>> the Netherlands.
>>> That is in certain area's, as BitCoin and DevOps. Say in community
>>> driven, agile-style environments.
>>> Cheers,
>>> -martin
>>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Gaston Toth <gaston.toth at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Dirk, I agree with you, I live in the south of Argentina and the use
>>>> of meetup is not common here.
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