[Owasp-leaders] [OWASP-chapters] Growing Your Chapter + 90% / 10% Splits

Timur 'x' Khrotko (owasp) timur at owasp.org
Tue Nov 18 22:18:08 UTC 2014

Thanx to this thread I created a meetup group for our chapter
<http://www.meetup.com/OWASP-HU/>, and w/o doing anything we automatically
got 40 members within 6 days.

Wouldn't it be possible to cover the cost of meetup.com (Julian mentioned
as a cons) from the budget a chapter has on its account of OWASP from
In our case it is relevant, since we do not maintain any legal body
(unreasonable cost and time to have such in Central Europe), thus we handle
no money. (Now I pay it from my pocket/card.)


On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 1:40 AM, Julian Berton <julian.berton at owasp.org>

> As Andrew pointed out OWASP Melbourne chapter has been using Meetup for
> just longer than a year now. Its not perfect but overall a platform such as
> Meetup definitely makes managing/growing OWASP chapters much easier for
> both the leaders and members.
> Here is a quick list of some of the pros and cons:
> Pros:
> - RSVP feature - even though its not 100% accurate it gives indications of
> numbers for each meetup. also gives us an indication of active members
> - allows the use of google analytics so we can track page views and growth
> and how far our marketing efforts have gone.
> - user friendly interface for adding and viewing chapter meetings
> - too many features to mention! eg. commenting on meetup, export meeting
> to calendar, sending updates to select groups of users(i.e. only RSVPed
> members)
> - develops a mini social community, more so than a mailing list imo
> - and the list goes on... can post photos of meetups, allows adding of
> sponsors logos, option for members to rate and give feedback on meetups, etc
> - BIG ONE FOR GROWING -  cross promoting of meetup groups. In Melbourne
> Meetup.com is used heavily by developers, sysadmins etc to host meetups. We
> use this to get more developers interested and aware of OWASP Melbourne. As
> an example there is a Melbourne Mobile meetup group (~750 members) which we
> contacted when we did our meetups on both Android and iOS security. They
> announced our meetup along with a few other related meetups and we got a
> massive boost in numbers attending and number of signups. We had ~80 people
> compared with ~20 people from previous events. Another advantage is that
> the barrier to entry for existing Meetup members to join other meetups is
> very low.
> - more transparent overall, everyone can see how active a meetup is with
> respect to both number of meetups and number of attendees.
> Cons:
> - its not a free service. Costs $89.94 every 6 months :(
> - new members will have to sign up to Meetup.com to RSVP or get
> notifications of new meetups, higher barrier to entry (note though that you
> dont have to sign up to view the meetup details)
> As far as KPI's of chapter activity are concerned. I am not aware of how
> its currently done... but once you have signed up to Meetup.com it becomes
> very much like a mailing list. Also it is not necessary to signup to
> Meetup.com to view all current and passed meetups (assuming you dont have
> the meetings set to private). So as long as a link to the meetup page is
> provided on the chapter wiki this shouldn't be a problem right?
> Thanks
> Julian
> OWASP Melbourne
> @JulianBerton
> On 17 November 2014 18:33, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Very cool, Martin. Glad to see meetup working around the world...
>> Please, no stress here chapter leaders. This is just an option to help
>> grow your chapter, it's not a requirement that anyone is putting on you.
>> The chapter handbook is pretty flexible in this area, so I really
>> encourage you to experiment with ways to grow your chapter.
>> As a side note, most searches for "OWASP <yourCity>" land at the OWASP
>> wiki so it's good to keep that page updated or at least pointing to your
>> meeting service.
>> Aloha,
>> --
>> Jim Manico
>> @Manicode
>> (808) 652-3805
>> On Nov 17, 2014, at 4:07 PM, Martin Knobloch <martin.knobloch at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>> All,
>> Meet-ups are growing in recognition and are becoming more normal here in
>> the Netherlands.
>> That is in certain area's, as BitCoin and DevOps. Say in community
>> driven, agile-style environments.
>> Cheers,
>> -martin
>> On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 4:36 AM, Gaston Toth <gaston.toth at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>>> Hi Dirk, I agree with you, I live in the south of Argentina and the use
>>> of meetup is not common here.
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