[Owasp-leaders] Free training at major OWASP AppSec conferences

Eoin Keary eoin.keary at owasp.org
Tue Mar 25 23:41:22 UTC 2014


Certainly. I'm happy to gather links to the free material.
So if anyone has anything Please send it on or upload to the wiki.

Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
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On 25 Mar 2014, at 20:56, Sarah Baso <sarah.baso at owasp.org> wrote:

> Thanks Eoin!  Should i put together a wiki page for all this?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:09 PM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>> We (Jim and I) have shared our material for the last 2 years. Who else is willing to share? Lets gather links to all free training material. 
>> 
>> 
>> Eoin Keary
>> Owasp Global Board
>> +353 87 977 2988
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Mar 2014, at 17:23, Jerry Hoff <jerry at owasp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> I think one major point is we should agree on an official OWASP curriculum and make the “free training” open to all.   The training materials should be free, open source and standardized - then all OWASP members we can do free training globally.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jerry Hoff
>>> @jerryhoff
>>> jerry at owasp.org
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>>> On Mar 26, 2014, at 2:20 AM, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I think this is a situation where it is a net positive either way and in situations like these I'd prefer to leave it to the leaders running the conference to make the decision as they have first-hand knowledge of budgets and expectation.  I will say that there is empirical data supporting free training as we did this at AppSecUSA 2012 in Austin.  There, Jim Manico did a free bootcamp for ~75 people one day and did a similar paid training with Eoin Keary for 14 attendees the next.  We still managed to raise almost $100k in revenue off training alone for the event.
>>>> 
>>>> ~josh
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, psiinon <psiinon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Leaders,
>>>>> 
>>>>> There has been a discussion on the AppSec EU 2014 list regarding the pros and cons of giving free training at major OWASP AppSec conferences.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A _very_ quick summary: Free training is a great way to get our message across, but can (and it is claimed does) eat into our revenue, which will therefore limit what else we can achieve.
>>>>> 
>>>>> A poll was suggested, but it has been pointed out that this might be counterproductive without a more detailed discussion regarding the full impact this sort of free training could have.
>>>>> I can understand that, but I would really like to hear the communities views on this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I hope thats not too biased an introduction (I'm sure my views will become apparent soon;) and that it is enough to get the discussion started...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> OWASP ZAP Project leader
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