[Owasp-leaders] Free training at major OWASP AppSec conferences

Eoin Keary eoin.keary at owasp.org
Tue Mar 25 20:08:00 UTC 2014


Hey Josh,
For the record,
I delivered the free training also at LASCON.


Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
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On 25 Mar 2014, at 17:20, Josh Sokol <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> I think this is a situation where it is a net positive either way and in situations like these I'd prefer to leave it to the leaders running the conference to make the decision as they have first-hand knowledge of budgets and expectation.  I will say that there is empirical data supporting free training as we did this at AppSecUSA 2012 in Austin.  There, Jim Manico did a free bootcamp for ~75 people one day and did a similar paid training with Eoin Keary for 14 attendees the next.  We still managed to raise almost $100k in revenue off training alone for the event.
> 
> ~josh
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 12:05 PM, psiinon <psiinon at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Leaders,
>> 
>> There has been a discussion on the AppSec EU 2014 list regarding the pros and cons of giving free training at major OWASP AppSec conferences.
>> 
>> A _very_ quick summary: Free training is a great way to get our message across, but can (and it is claimed does) eat into our revenue, which will therefore limit what else we can achieve.
>> 
>> A poll was suggested, but it has been pointed out that this might be counterproductive without a more detailed discussion regarding the full impact this sort of free training could have.
>> I can understand that, but I would really like to hear the communities views on this.
>> 
>> I hope thats not too biased an introduction (I'm sure my views will become apparent soon;) and that it is enough to get the discussion started...
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
>> -- 
>> OWASP ZAP Project leader
>> 
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