[Owasp-leaders] Measuring Intent and Funding Things

Samantha Groves samantha.groves at owasp.org
Mon Mar 24 14:55:11 UTC 2014


Just an FYI... There is a project fund bucket that was given to us this
year. It is not much, but it is a start. The question now is... What do you
want to do with it?


On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:38 AM, Yvan Boily <yvanboily at gmail.com> wrote:

> I fully support using chapter funds to produce materials for OWASP
> chapters, chapter leads, and to support projects and stuff.
>
> What I am looking for here is to find a way to fund the production of
> OWASP branded materials for non-OWASP stuff, for example if I want a case
> of OWASP cheat sheets that are professionally produced so I can have our HR
> team include them in the new hire kit for every new dev my employer hires,
> OWASP shouldn't foot the bill for that :)  (something like this -
> http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Introduction-Reference-Instructions-Shortcuts/dp/1936220156/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1395336990&sr=8-14&keywords=cheat+sheetas opposed to a simple sheet of paper).
>
> I guess maybe I am looking for a way to vote with my wallet for stuff that
> might eventually be available as a general order product (which I suspect
> will raise hackles, but hey, if OWASP doesn't do it, someone else will, and
> pocket the money instead of investing it in community projects).
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:07 AM, Dinis Cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> I think having those professional materials are super important for OWASP
>> and I also tend to have the OpenSAMM printed book at hand since it one
>> of most professional ones we have :)
>>
>> So yes, Yvan you are spot on (from my point of view) on your analysis and
>> OWASP should be helping to pay for those materials (specially since they
>> are an investment into the OWASP brand, and who knows how many new members
>> and conference attendees we would get from the recipients of
>> those materials)
>>
>> My view is that we should be using some of the OWASP funds (currently
>> available) to pay for this type of materials (so that our leaders can
>> distribute it). I'm still waiting for the idea of '*OWASP Projects Funds
>> bucket*' or '*OWASP Chapters Funds bucket'* so that us (the OWASP
>> leaders) can 'just get on with it' and distribute the great stuff that is
>> created at OWASP.
>>
>> Basically Yvan should be able to quickly order the materials he mentions
>> below (all from a global fund that is available to all OWASP leaders).
>>
>> That is what I tried to do with the OWASP GSD project<https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_GSD_Project>,and
>> as you can see on https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_GSD_Project that
>> money has been put to good use (Yvan I think there is still some in
>> there, so feel free to use it).
>>
>> BTW.. and if we can't get the 'OWASP Projects Funds bucket' setup in the
>> next months, *what about topping up the GSD projects fund?*
>>
>> Dinis
>>
>>
>> On 20 March 2014 12:22, Yvan Boily <yvanboily at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Leaders,
>>>
>>> After seeing Jim's post about Cornucopia and buying a couple of copies
>>> of the nicely produced OpenSAMM documents at AppSecEU last year, I was
>>> about to post a response, but I realized that I had a bigger question.
>>>
>>> For BSidesVancouver this year we used crowd-funding and I learned that
>>> it is a powerful way for the community involved with that to signal intent
>>> about priorities when organizing the event.  It worked out really well, and
>>> allowed us to keep our event 100% free for those who couldn't or chose not
>>> to pay to attend.  Since it was super successful, I pretty much drank the
>>> crowd funding kool-aid.   Later this year some gaming (as in playing
>>> dungeons and dragons every sunday night) folks and I will be running a
>>> separate kickstarter to collect funds to print something that we have been
>>> working on as a hobby; we have had a number of people say they would buy a
>>> copy, but using crowdfunding will allow us to figure out how much to spend
>>> on printing stuff and potentially allow us to get a higher volume printed
>>> so we can reduce the unit cost.
>>>
>>> In addition to this, I have pitched using crowd-funding to fund the
>>> development of high quality training materials to at least one other OWASP
>>> leader.
>>>
>>> Has anyone else in the OWASP community investigated using crowd-funding
>>> via Indie Go-Go, Kickstarter, or others to measure intent and make physical
>>> copies of things available?
>>>
>>> The reason I ask is:
>>>
>>> * I would like a professionally manufactured version of Cornucopia (I am
>>> talking print quality, not anything else).  This is expensive.  Also, I
>>> want about 12 copies, not 1.
>>>
>>> * I love the quality of the OpenSAMM guide; I literally carry it around
>>> with me when I am attending security meetups and cons where I might talk
>>> about OWASP because it's production values are simply superb.
>>>
>>> * I really wish I could buy (by the case) professional quality printouts
>>> of the OWASP cheat sheets to give devs in my community, and at work.
>>>
>>> These things are expensive to produce (both the cost of manufacturing,
>>> and the cost of producing good quality print materials).
>>>
>>> Is this something that people are interested in looking at it?  Is it a
>>> viable option?  Are people going to freak out[1] for my suggesting it?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Yvan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] omg drama talking about crowdfunding in some other communities I am
>>> involved with (gaming, local activism, etc)
>>>
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>>
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