[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-community] [Owasp-board] ...CandidateNamesUpdate

Ali Khalfan ali.khalfan at owasp.org
Mon Jul 21 23:36:14 UTC 2014


No kidding,  maybe we should update our spam filters 

, Justin Klein Keane <justin at madirish.net> wrote:
>Dear God unsubscribe me. If that means resigning as chapter lead fine.
>I can't take any more of this drama on the list!
>
>-Justin C. Klein Keane
>http://www.MadIrish.net
>
>Sent from my mobile please excuse any brevity. 
>
>> On Jul 21, 2014, at 6:20 PM, johanna curiel curiel
><johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>> 
>>  >she didn't talk anti infragard trash...should have been talking
>trash in front of former infragard
>> 
>> Who are u talking about? Keep in mind this REALLY FEEL
>OFFENSIVE...especially for female members, including myself.
>> 
>> Talking cryptically? What is this?
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Yvan Boily <yvanboily at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>> You are someone who is comfortable with calling a person offensive
>names on a public list, which is roughly all I need to know about you
>for the moment.  Thanks for doing your part to increase the quality of
>discourse on this list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 10:12 AM, Donald <don.gooden at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>> No...wrong Veteran wrong joke...
>>>> 
>>>> Period...
>>>> 
>>>> Know who you are talking too...it was to low bar of a
>stunt...period...low class and I was I rate...and to be correct she
>didn't talk anti infragard trash...should have been talking trash in
>front of former infragard,  but get the dictionary out and look up I
>rate...
>>>> 
>>>> Enjoy it..
>>>> 
>>>> D
>>>> 
>>>> Pps
>>>> 
>>>> Re replied(had to remove one of the email groups)
>>>> From: Yvan Boily
>>>> Sent: ‎7/‎21/‎2014 2:36 AM
>>>> To: Donald
>>>> Cc: Eoin Keary; Timur 'x' Khrotko (owasp); OWASP Foundation Board
>List; owasp-community at lists.owasp.org; owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-community] [Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-board]
>...CandidateNamesUpdate
>>>> 
>>>> So um, this is usually the reason you should stay off email when
>you are drunk.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 7:59 PM, Donald <don.gooden at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>>> That retarded chick at the time end just bunked the hope
>conf...rapped in selipheion and talking anti infragard trash....tried
>to just hope help and smile..and 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Rank and file...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bunk
>>>>> 
>>>>> D
>>>>> From: Eoin Keary
>>>>> Sent: ‎7/‎18/‎2014 4:17 PM
>>>>> To: Timur 'x' Khrotko (owasp)
>>>>> Cc: OWASP Foundation Board List; owasp-community at lists.owasp.org;
>owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-community] [Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-board]
>...CandidateNames Update
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best of luck!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 20:47, "Timur 'x' Khrotko (owasp)"
><timur at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I plan to nominate myself. I thought August 11 is the deadline,
>now I see it is better to register as candidate early... ,)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2014 9:43 PM, "Eoin Keary" <eoin.keary at owasp.org>
>wrote:
>>>>>>> ......when  did the process change from Open the Closed? It was
>open 2 elections ago and before...i memory serves....There was no
>publicised decision to make the nominee list closed....was there?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Opening the list is not a process change, like really? what
>effect shall it have apart from the "surprise" factor after call for
>nominees is closed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 20:31, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
>wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I agree with Josh in both points (should be open, but not to
>change an election process mid-way unless this agreed unanimously by
>all candidates). 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> And there is no need to change the rules mid-way of this
>election. 
>>>>>>>> Any candidate is free to announce her/himself that she/he is
>running at any time. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best wishes, Tobias
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ps.: and we can discuss for next year whether and how we should
>change the procedure. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 18/07/14 20:14, Josh Sokol wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Sarah stated that they got more candidates by not announcing
>it in advance because some people might not want to run if they
>perceive that there are other qualified candidates.  That was the
>operations team rationale at least and they seemed to have data to
>support it.  Ultimately, I agree that our elections should be open, but
>I don't think we should change the rules mid-way through the process
>unless we have full buy-in from all participants.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> ~josh
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Paolo Perego
><thesp0nge at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The O still stands for open?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Il 18/lug/2014 21:00 "Eoin Keary" <eoin.keary at owasp.org> ha
>scritto:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>> Makes no sense.
>>>>>>>>>>> And no reason for secrecy given.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Eoin Keary
>>>>>>>>>>> Owasp Global Board
>>>>>>>>>>> +353 87 977 2988
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 18 Jul 2014, at 19:46, johanna curiel curiel
><johanna.curiel at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Normally in an election process, candidates will go out
>there and do promotion..(political campaign can I call it?)
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> But in this case i don't understand why the names where
>kept hidden, its so contradictory to an election vote process that I
>actually don't understand this decisions at all...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Jim Manico
><jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am indeed running for the board again. Kelly recently
>asked me and the other candidates if it was ok to change the current
>policy. I let Kelly know that I am ok (and prefer) transparency over
>this issue.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Aloha,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jim Manico
>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Manicode
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (808) 652-3805
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 18, 2014, at 4:03 AM, psiinon <psiinon at gmail.com>
>wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So far the Poll shows a fairly even split between the
>yes, no and maybe responses as to whether people would vote for someone
>who was not prepared to announce their candidacy in advance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This would appear to indicate that publicly announcing
>your intention to stand for the OWASP board would be advantageous.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously you shouldnt make decisions just based on polls
>like this.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I'm going to make my own position very clear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will not be standing for the board this year.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And I will NOT be voting for any of the candidates who do
>not announce their candidacy prior to August 19.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If that means I am not able to vote for any of the
>candidates then so be it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 18, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Kelly Santalucia
><kelly.santalucia at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Members of the OWASP Community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wanted to give you an updated on OWASP releasing the
>candidate names for the upcoming 2014 Board of Elections.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All candidates were sent an email earlier this week
>asking if they would support OWASP releasing their candidacy prior to
>August 19.  Out of the 7 candidates, one replied "I am indifferent to a
>policy change at this point. If you opt to change the policy of
>releasing candidates names, I will go along with it."  and the other
>asked for his/her candidacy to be retracted. I have personally reached
>out to the remaining 5 candidates again asking for their thoughts. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> As of now, we will not be releasing the names until all
>candidates have replied, and they all need to be in favor of it.  No
>where is it noted that the candidates can not announce their candidacy
>on their own via social media, etc. prior to August 19.  
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am happy to reevaluate our current election model for
>the 2015 election.  If you would like to be a part of this discussion,
>please let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kelly Santalucia
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Membership and Business Liaison
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OWASP Foundation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1200-C Agora Drive, #232
>>>>> 
>>>>> [The entire original message is not included.]
>>>>> 
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