[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-community] In Samantha's words: "Why I resigned my role at OWASP"

Bev Corwin bev.corwin at owasp.org
Sat Jul 12 16:40:13 UTC 2014


+1


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 5:44 PM, Robert Shullich <robert.shullich at owasp.org>
wrote:

> Has anyone considered that this is a public list? Have you considered that
> thus is not OWASP internal, but that this list is public and published to
> anyone on the internet? Do you realize that anyone can just Google this
> topic and read these threads?
>
> Further, do you realize that this has/is a topic of blogs and articles
> from places such as TechTarget and others?
>
> Does anyone realize that we have a discussion here that is
> slandering/libel the good names on innocent people, when we don't know who
> the in innocent are, we don't know the actual facts, and at the moment this
> is nothing more than gossip?
>
> How about that OWASP is a charitable institution and depends on volunteers
> and donations and all of this chatter could have a negative impact on
> OWASP's mission?
>
> Anyone thinking at all?
>
>
>
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> On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Richard Greenberg <
> richard.greenberg at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> I am now totally sick of hearing people bash good people, without evidence
> and without following the foundation of our government: people are presumed
> innocent until proven guilty. Others have asked to stop using this thread.
> I implore everyone to follow this excellent advice. Snide remarks
> accomplish what, exactly? Let's remember to always take the higher ground,
> and think before we type. It is forever!
>
> Thank you all.
>
> Richard Greenberg, CISSP
> President, OWASP Los Angeles, www.owaspla.org <http://www.appsecusa.org/>
> ISSA Fellow
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>
> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Azzeddine Ramrami <
> azzeddine.ramrami at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Eurojee Jarina <
>> eurojee.jarina at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>> This sounds like my government, full of corrupt politicians. Money,
>>> power and politics.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OWASP Community and Leaders,
>>>>
>>>> Since making my first wiki edit in January 2007 I have been an active
>>>> and dedicated volunteer for the OWASP foundation and community.
>>>>
>>>> When I first joined OWASP, I was amazed at the many brilliant security
>>>> minds within the organization and wanted to capture this special moment in
>>>> time when the application security industry began to really take off. My
>>>> passion for sharing security information with others (and wanting a
>>>> platform for the brilliant OWASP security minds to share their opinions)
>>>> led me to host the first OWASP podcast on November 21, 2008 and I continued
>>>> to host the podcast until March 2014. I currently work on a variety of
>>>> secure coding projects for the foundation.
>>>>
>>>> Through the years I have traveled to OWASP chapters around the globe.
>>>> From Ghana to Helsinki and many points between, I have always maintained
>>>> vendor neutrality and OWASP integrity as our mission and bylaws demand.
>>>>
>>>> On March 18, 2014 while attending the OWASP conference in Tokyo,
>>>> Samantha and Dennis gave me a big "dual hug" and told me how much they
>>>> loved me for my work at OWASP.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, my and other OWASP members concerns regarding Samantha's
>>>> handling of OWASP projects turned our relationship sour.
>>>>
>>>> Members of the technical project review group felt they were being
>>>> ignored by Samantha.  I felt the same way when I expressed my concerns to
>>>> her in private. I am grateful for the accomplishments Samantha did make but
>>>> felt the technical project leaders concerns needed to be addressed. Before
>>>> going public with my concerns I first addressed my concerns to Samantha in
>>>> private. I then went to Samantha's boss who told me to "do something about
>>>> it". No improvements were made so I took my concerns public.  Now I am
>>>> being wrongfully accused of sexual harassment by Samantha. I have never
>>>> sexually harassed Samantha. These claims are unfounded and a number of
>>>> OWASP community members have told me to sue her for slander.
>>>>
>>>> I am aware that others are suing her and at this time but this is not a
>>>> path I will take. A lawsuit simply wastes time and money and perpetuates
>>>> this nonsense. We have a pattern of Samantha making claims that are not
>>>> backed up by truth, a point made clearly by Josh Sokol in his response to
>>>> Samantha's letter.
>>>>
>>>> What I am going to do now is get back to work and do whatever I can to
>>>> continue supporting the OWASP community. I will be participating in the
>>>> upcoming AppSec EU conference in Cambridge next week and I hope to see you
>>>> there.
>>>>
>>>> Aloha,
>>>> Jim Manico
>>>> OWASP Board Member and Volunteer
>>>>
>>>>
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>>
>>
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