[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-community] In Samantha's words: "Why I resigned my role at OWASP"

Robert Shullich robert.shullich at owasp.org
Fri Jul 11 21:44:15 UTC 2014

Has anyone considered that this is a public list? Have you considered that thus is not OWASP internal, but that this list is public and published to anyone on the internet? Do you realize that anyone can just Google this topic and read these threads?

Further, do you realize that this has/is a topic of blogs and articles from places such as TechTarget and others?

Does anyone realize that we have a discussion here that is slandering/libel the good names on innocent people, when we don't know who the in innocent are, we don't know the actual facts, and at the moment this is nothing more than gossip?

How about that OWASP is a charitable institution and depends on volunteers and donations and all of this chatter could have a negative impact on OWASP's mission?

Anyone thinking at all?

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> On Jul 11, 2014, at 3:39 PM, Richard Greenberg <richard.greenberg at owasp.org> wrote:
> I am now totally sick of hearing people bash good people, without evidence and without following the foundation of our government: people are presumed innocent until proven guilty. Others have asked to stop using this thread. I implore everyone to follow this excellent advice. Snide remarks accomplish what, exactly? Let's remember to always take the higher ground, and think before we type. It is forever!
> Thank you all.
> Richard Greenberg, CISSP
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>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 2:37 AM, Azzeddine Ramrami <azzeddine.ramrami at owasp.org> wrote:
>> +1
>>> On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Eurojee Jarina <eurojee.jarina at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> This sounds like my government, full of corrupt politicians. Money, power and politics.
>>>> On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 3:34 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> OWASP Community and Leaders,
>>>> Since making my first wiki edit in January 2007 I have been an active and dedicated volunteer for the OWASP foundation and community.
>>>> When I first joined OWASP, I was amazed at the many brilliant security minds within the organization and wanted to capture this special moment in time when the application security industry began to really take off. My passion for sharing security information with others (and wanting a platform for the brilliant OWASP security minds to share their opinions) led me to host the first OWASP podcast on November 21, 2008 and I continued to host the podcast until March 2014. I currently work on a variety of secure coding projects for the foundation.
>>>> Through the years I have traveled to OWASP chapters around the globe. From Ghana to Helsinki and many points between, I have always maintained vendor neutrality and OWASP integrity as our mission and bylaws demand.
>>>> On March 18, 2014 while attending the OWASP conference in Tokyo, Samantha and Dennis gave me a big "dual hug" and told me how much they loved me for my work at OWASP.
>>>> Unfortunately, my and other OWASP members concerns regarding Samantha's handling of OWASP projects turned our relationship sour.
>>>> Members of the technical project review group felt they were being ignored by Samantha.  I felt the same way when I expressed my concerns to her in private. I am grateful for the accomplishments Samantha did make but felt the technical project leaders concerns needed to be addressed. Before going public with my concerns I first addressed my concerns to Samantha in private. I then went to Samantha's boss who told me to "do something about it". No improvements were made so I took my concerns public.  Now I am being wrongfully accused of sexual harassment by Samantha. I have never sexually harassed Samantha. These claims are unfounded and a number of OWASP community members have told me to sue her for slander.
>>>> I am aware that others are suing her and at this time but this is not a path I will take. A lawsuit simply wastes time and money and perpetuates this nonsense. We have a pattern of Samantha making claims that are not backed up by truth, a point made clearly by Josh Sokol in his response to Samantha's letter.
>>>> What I am going to do now is get back to work and do whatever I can to continue supporting the OWASP community. I will be participating in the upcoming AppSec EU conference in Cambridge next week and I hope to see you there.
>>>> Aloha,
>>>> Jim Manico
>>>> OWASP Board Member and Volunteer
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