[Owasp-leaders] [Owasp-germany] RSA

Thu Jan 9 22:32:11 UTC 2014

It was a link to the song "There is no beer in Hawaii" :)

Aloha,
Jim

PS: Get a anonymizing proxy dude, geesh! ;-) ;-)

> Thank you, Jim, for (accidentally?) pointing <<<away from the US privacy violations and >>>at the German copyright problems for a change... ;-p
> 
> "Leider ist dieses Video, das Musik von EMI beinhaltet, in Deutschland nicht verfügbar, da die GEMA die Verlagsrechte hieran nicht eingeräumt hat."
> ("Unfortunately this video is not available in Germany, as it contains music from EMI for which the GEMA did not grant the right of publishing.")
> 
> Cheers,
> Björn
> 
> PS: This one works even for Germans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EL-nTBiwdiE
> 	
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: owasp-germany-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-germany-bounces at lists.owasp.org] Im Auftrag von Jim Manico
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 9. Januar 2014 21:58
> An: Ralf Reinhardt; owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
> Cc: owasp-germany at lists.owasp.org
> Betreff: Re: [Owasp-germany] [Owasp-leaders] RSA
> 
> Ralf,
> 
> OWASP did indeed cancel the co-marketing agreement with RSA and Eoin and I chose to cancel the training. So it looks like the folks voting on this poll got what they wanted.
> 
> Aloha OWASP Germany,
> Jim
> 
> PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnFZG4dyQmM
> 
> 
>> Eoin and Jim
>> +1 and thank you.
>>
>> Just for your information:
>>
>> Since quite a lot of people in Germany meanwhile feel unhappy and 
>> monitored then using google and other US located or owned services, 
>> large parts of the German OWASP or web application security community 
>> probably does not even have or use an OWASP.org account.
>>
>> So it was   in my eyes   utterly unfair to exclude them. I did send 
>> the information that there is a poll going on into the German OWASP 
>> mailing list and cloned the poll of Simon into ServeyMonkey (yes, 
>> still US owned and logging IPs, but the world is not perfect).
>>
>> I asked the owasp.org account holder to use the "official" one and 
>> anybody else to use my cloned version. I did this about 8,5 h before, 
>> and until now 29 persons have voted:
>>
>> -----8<-----
>> Should OWASP give a developer training cource at the 2014 RSA 
>> conference? For background info see 
>> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2014-January/thread.html
>>
>> - Yes, this should be an official OWASP initiative, 3,45%, 1 person
>> - Yes, as long as the training is given as individuals an not an 
>> official OWASP initiative, 3,45%, 1 person
>> - No, OWASP should publicly pull out, 89,66%, 26 persons
>> - The board should decide, 3,45%, 1 person
>>
>>
>> Should OWASP make a public statement to the effect that 
>> subverting/weakening crypto is a bad idea
>>
>> - Yes, 96,55%, 28 persons
>> - No, 3,45%, 1 person
>> -----8<-----
>>
>>
>> Am Donnerstag, den 09.01.2014, 19:58 +0000 schrieb Dinis Cruz:
>>> Yeah that RSA answer is quite out of order. Is that published 
>>> somewhere? It would be good to have a public record of how they 
>>> reacted
>>>
>>> On 9 Jan 2014 19:43, "Jim Manico" <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>         OWASP Leaders,
>>>         
>>>         Among many reasons, one being that Eoin and I are co-authors,
>>>         I am going to follow his lead and pull way from the RSA
>>>         conference training.
>>>         
>>>         This was a difficult decision and I am not happy at how this
>>>         all went down. Again, I think we need to apply this same kind
>>>         of judgement evenly.
>>>         
>>>         Frankly, I was very positive on doing the RSA training up
>>>         until we received their response asking us to cease-and-desist
>>>         from talking to BSsides and asking Eoin for a retraction. I
>>>         can't say that I blame them, but it made it clear to me that
>>>         we we either need to do the co-marketing and training, or walk
>>>         away from both.
>>>         
>>>         Aloha,
>>>         Jim Manico
>>>         OWASP Board Member
>>>         @Manicode
>>>         (808) 652-3805
>>>         
>>>         
>>>         
>>>         
>>>         > OWASP leaders,
>>>         >
>>>         > I've decided to pull my delivery of training from the RSA
>>>         conference.
>>>         >
>>>         > I don't believe supporting in organisation who tries to
>>>         control other organisations (whom they talk to) or is
>>>         allegedly involved with weak crypto/NSA conspiracy is good for
>>>         the foundation.
>>>         >
>>>         > I also request that OWASP pull the plug on any involvement
>>>         with RSA for 2014.
>>>         >
>>>         > Sorry I this upsets some people. I was voted (as a board
>>>         member)  to lead by you and I am trying to do just that.
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         >
>>>         > Eoin Keary
>>>         > Owasp Global Board
>>>         > +353 87 977 2988
>>>         >
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