[Owasp-leaders] RSA

Thu Jan 9 20:57:38 UTC 2014

Ralf,

OWASP did indeed cancel the co-marketing agreement with RSA and Eoin and I chose to cancel the training. So it looks like the folks voting on this poll got what they wanted.

Aloha OWASP Germany,
Jim

PS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnFZG4dyQmM

> Eoin and Jim
> +1 and thank you.
> 
> Just for your information:
> 
> Since quite a lot of people in Germany meanwhile feel unhappy and
> monitored then using google and other US located or owned services,
> large parts of the German OWASP or web application security community
> probably does not even have or use an OWASP.org account.
> 
> So it was – in my eyes – utterly unfair to exclude them. I did send the
> information that there is a poll going on into the German OWASP mailing
> list and cloned the poll of Simon into ServeyMonkey (yes, still US owned
> and logging IPs, but the world is not perfect).
> 
> I asked the owasp.org account holder to use the "official" one and
> anybody else to use my cloned version. I did this about 8,5 h before,
> and until now 29 persons have voted:
> 
> -----8<-----
> Should OWASP give a developer training cource at the 2014 RSA
> conference? For background info see
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2014-January/thread.html 
> 
> - Yes, this should be an official OWASP initiative, 3,45%, 1 person
> - Yes, as long as the training is given as individuals an not an
> official OWASP initiative, 3,45%, 1 person
> - No, OWASP should publicly pull out, 89,66%, 26 persons
> - The board should decide, 3,45%, 1 person
> 
> 
> Should OWASP make a public statement to the effect that
> subverting/weakening crypto is a bad idea 
> 
> - Yes, 96,55%, 28 persons
> - No, 3,45%, 1 person
> -----8<-----
> 
> 
> Am Donnerstag, den 09.01.2014, 19:58 +0000 schrieb Dinis Cruz:
>> Yeah that RSA answer is quite out of order. Is that published
>> somewhere? It would be good to have a public record of how they
>> reacted 
>>
>> On 9 Jan 2014 19:43, "Jim Manico" <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>         OWASP Leaders,
>>         
>>         Among many reasons, one being that Eoin and I are co-authors,
>>         I am going to follow his lead and pull way from the RSA
>>         conference training.
>>         
>>         This was a difficult decision and I am not happy at how this
>>         all went down. Again, I think we need to apply this same kind
>>         of judgement evenly.
>>         
>>         Frankly, I was very positive on doing the RSA training up
>>         until we received their response asking us to cease-and-desist
>>         from talking to BSsides and asking Eoin for a retraction. I
>>         can't say that I blame them, but it made it clear to me that
>>         we we either need to do the co-marketing and training, or walk
>>         away from both.
>>         
>>         Aloha,
>>         Jim Manico
>>         OWASP Board Member
>>         @Manicode
>>         (808) 652-3805
>>         
>>         
>>         
>>         
>>         > OWASP leaders,
>>         >
>>         > I've decided to pull my delivery of training from the RSA
>>         conference.
>>         >
>>         > I don't believe supporting in organisation who tries to
>>         control other organisations (whom they talk to) or is
>>         allegedly involved with weak crypto/NSA conspiracy is good for
>>         the foundation.
>>         >
>>         > I also request that OWASP pull the plug on any involvement
>>         with RSA for 2014.
>>         >
>>         > Sorry I this upsets some people. I was voted (as a board
>>         member)  to lead by you and I am trying to do just that.
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         >
>>         > Eoin Keary
>>         > Owasp Global Board
>>         > +353 87 977 2988
>>         >
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