[Owasp-leaders] Regular OWASP polls

psiinon psiinon at gmail.com
Thu Jan 9 12:39:03 UTC 2014


Great - I'll email you off list :)


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Fabio Cerullo <fcerullo at owasp.org> wrote:

> Simon
>
> I will happily work with you to tweak the polling system and make it a
> rubust platform for the OWASP community. Kudos for putting it together in
> such a short notice!
>
> Fabio
>
> El Wednesday, January 8, 2014, Eoin Keary escribió:
>
> Hmmm same here :)
>>
>> Eoin Keary
>> Owasp Global Board
>> +353 87 977 2988
>>
>>
>> On 8 Jan 2014, at 15:25, psiinon <psiinon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thats true.
>> Except when people like me tweet about them
>> https://twitter.com/psiinon/status/420609431047397376
>> Ooops ;)
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 3:19 PM, Konstantinos Papapanagiotou <
>> Konstantinos at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hiding the results of the poll until it closes also prevents biased
>> votes. It's not a matter of openness in my opinion.
>>
>> Kostas
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 5:13 PM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>>  Dear Simon,
>>
>> thank you so much for organising this and setting this up.
>> This is great and I will be looking forward to using this community poll
>> more in the future!
>>
>> And I totally agree with your replies to requests from non-owasp email
>> holders.
>> Nothing is perfect and the tool is as it is and naturally has some
>> technical limitations. In case of public requests, it is fully sufficient
>> to make available simple summary results after the survey is closed. We
>> don't need to make huge investments just to publish partial real-time
>> preliminary update results for the public. In most normal cases, surveys
>> don't even have preliminary status updates at all.
>>
>> All the best, Tobias
>>
>>
>> Ps.: on a technical term, one might also question the requesters argument
>> that an internal member poll for a decision would qualify as "OWASP
>> materials". However, personally I just love openness and transparency and
>> would encourage and embrace if we could post the end summary results of our
>> community surveys somewhere on our website after they are finished.
>> (Without publishing details how each single named individual voted in the
>> poll.)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/01/14 14:40, psiinon wrote:
>>
>>    And another problem...
>>
>>  I've been receiving _lots_ of requests to access the form from non OWASP
>> accounts.
>>  I have replied to all of them with a canned response of:
>> I'm afraid this poll is currently only available to people with OWASP
>> email accounts to ensure that only OWASP members / contributors take part.
>>
>> To get an OWASP email address follow the link on
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Owasp.org_email_address
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>  However I've just received a reply of:
>> Dear Simon,
>>
>> the main page of the owasp website states "all of our materials are
>> available under a free and open software license". Thus I again ask for
>> these materials.
>>
>>  Best regards,
>> a long-time owasp follower
>>
>>  PS: Thanks, I don't need these information, but I am just surprised
>> that being an all open and free project, you deny access to these
>> informtion? Isn't that ignoring the foundaries of the project?
>>
>>  For now I'm going to stick with the statement I put on
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Polls:
>>
>>


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