[Owasp-leaders] OWASP Board decision that I don't agree with

Konstantinos Papapanagiotou konstantinos at owasp.org
Sun Jan 5 17:57:21 UTC 2014


John,

If you never work with FRA, or any similar agency, you will never have the
chance to see what part of this is actually true and most importantly
you'll never have a chance to change things.

Kostas


On Sunday, January 5, 2014, John Wilander wrote:

> 2014/1/5 Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'tobias.gondrom at owasp.org');>>
>
>> So far I am mostly
>> talking about not actively supporting some companies with our OWASP
>> brand name and our OWASP money if they have actively worked against the
>> OWASP mission.
>
>
> Exactly my point. RSAC will be back 2015 and by then their connections to
> NSA will hopefully be public and scrutinized. But right now we don't know
> where this will go. OWASP is taking a great risk, not only the risk of
> smudging our brand but also in tearing up things between continents and
> countries.
>
> Jim, you mentioned Sweden. I am ashamed of how the Swedish intelligence
> agency FRA has acted against its own people and the citizens of other
> countries. Although I'm no longer co-leader of our OWASP chapter I would
> strongly oppose any joint ventures or invited talks if they involved FRA
> directly or any business found to have helped FRA subvert security of
> people not suspected of serious crime. I'm member of the liberal party here
> (Folkpartiet) and they're part of the government. Therefore I've sent a
> detailed email to my party leader, telling him what is wrong with today's
> policy and what should change.
>
> Look at what's been revealed on surveillance in Germany, Brazil, Sweden
> etc. Is it wise for OWASP to give free training at an event run by an
> American company helping the American National Security Agency to subvert
> basic security building blocks? We could either lose a lot of credibility
> by being associated with RSA in the middle of this global security crisis,
> or we could gain credibility by staying away from RSA while this plays out.
>
> To all of you: The fact that we're having this discussion in the open
> makes me proud. Imagine RSA doing the same.
>
>    /John
>
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