[Owasp-leaders] OWASP Board decision that I don't agree with

Sastry Tumuluri sastry.tumuluri at owasp.org
Sat Jan 4 19:10:17 UTC 2014


It appeared to me that the OWASP board had debated and decided (with our
without voting). Hence my comment.

That the matter could be reopened is a great indicator of our openness,
something that I'm new to. I'll amend the post to reflect this.

On Jan 5, 2014 12:28 AM, "Eoin Keary" <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:

> Given we are still discussing RSA, its not fair for you to say on your
> blog that OWASP has "copped out"....
> I agree with the view of our privacy is constantly under attack and being
> eroded by many, many nation states globally.
> If the foundation and it's members does not deem it appropriate to deliver
> developer training at RSA we need to take this into consideration 100%
> Eoin Keary
> Owasp Global Board
> +353 87 977 2988
> On 4 Jan 2014, at 18:44, Sastry Tumuluri <sastry.tumuluri at owasp.org>
> wrote:
> I'm not sure this should be treated as "politics". If the only issue was
> "surveillance", it might've been unclear turf. The issue of weakening
> crypto is crystal clear, IMHO.
> OWASP is the most influential and inspirational voice in the AppSec world.
> Any action by OWASP that even hints "hey it's okay to weaken crypto" is a
> huge problem -- purely on the professional front.
> On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 11:54 PM, Abbas Naderi <abbas.naderi at owasp.org>wrote:
>> I strongly support Sastry on this one.
>> You might be participating as individuals, but people see you guys as the
>> OWASP Board, and that’s something that many of us don’t like to be the
>> image of OWASP.
>> Thanks
>> -Abbas
>> On Jan 4, 2014, at 1:18 PM, Eoin Keary <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>  To be clear, there was no recorded vote on this but a debate.
>> I started the debate after reading about Mikko. (Even though I was
>> delivering the training with Jim and it is my material).
>> The majority of board of OWASP feels getting involved in politics is
>> wrong and wanted to push ahead with the training.
>> So if feelings are strong we need to vote on this ASAP? as leaders of
>> OWASP. A formal board vote? Executive decision from Sarah, our executive
>> director.
>> Eoin Keary
>> Owasp Global Board
>> +353 87 977 2988
>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 16:48, Sastry Tumuluri <sastry.tumuluri at owasp.org>
>> wrote:
>> Friends,
>> Please see the following full conversation on twitter:
>> https://twitter.com/EoinKeary/status/419111748424454145
>> Eoin Keary and Jim Manico (both OWASP board members) will be
>> presenting/conducting 4 hrs of free-of-cost AppSec training at the RSA
>> Conference, 2014. Michael Coates, Chairman of the OWASP Board is also said
>> to be present. Apparently, this was discussed at the OWASP board level; and
>> the board has decided to go ahead, keeping in mind the benefit to the
>> attending developers.
>> As you are aware, RSA is strongly suspected (we'll never be 100% sure,
>> I'm afraid) of being complicit with NSA in enabling fatal weakening of
>> crypto products. RSA has issued a sort of a denial that only deepens the
>> mistrust. As a protest, many leading speakers are cancelling their talks at
>> the upcoming RSAC 2014. Among them are (to my knowledge) Mikko Hypponen,
>> Jeffrey Carr and Josh Thomas.
>> At such a time, I am saddened by the OWASP board decision to support RSAC
>> by their presence. At a time when they had the opportunity to let the world
>> know how much they care for the Information Security profession (esp.,
>> against weakening crypto); and how much they care about the privacy of
>> people (against NSA's unabashed spying on Americans & non-Americans alike),
>> the board has copped out using a flimsy rationalization ("benefit of (a
>> few) developers", many of who would rethink their attendance had OWASP and
>> more organizations didn't blink!").
>> I'm sure there was a heated debate. I'm sure all angles were considered.
>> However, this goes too deep for me to take it as "better men than me have
>> considered and decided". As a matter of my personal values, if the
>> situation doesn't change, I would no longer wish to continue as the OWASP
>> Chapter Lead. Please let me know if any of you would like to take over from
>> me.
>> I will also share my feelings with fellow chapter members at our next
>> chapter meeting on Jan 21st. Needless to say, no matter how things go, I
>> remain committed to the principles of our open and open-source infosec
>> community.
>> Best regards,
>> ==Sas3==
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