[Owasp-leaders] OWASP Training Model - Community Vote

Fabio Cerullo fcerullo at owasp.org
Wed Feb 19 18:08:02 UTC 2014


We are not trying to make significant changes here... only remove the
burden of debit/credit transactions from trainer to OWASP.

By placing a checkbox in the contract, any trainer who is willing to donate
the earnings to OWASP could do so by just opting-in. Then the transaction
becomes transparent and there is no debit/credit involved - 100% funds go
directly to the OWASP Foundation or project of choice. I'm sure Alison will
appreciate knowing this beforehand.

A different topic altogether is the request from OWASP trainers to deliver
training absolutely free. I'm aware at least Jim and Simon are willing to
deliver trainings at no cost during major OWASP conferences and they found
some friction.

The survey is just a pulse from the OWASP community, no guarantees anything
will change but when there is a will things usually happen.


On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 3:22 PM, Eoin Keary
<eoin.keary at owasp.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eoin.keary at owasp.org');>
> wrote:

> Currently there is nothing stopping trainers delivering classes for free.
> Jim and myself have been doing this since 2012. We are doing it next week
> in San Francisco. We have both partially self funded the trip.
> If a trainer wants to charge and donate 100% of the fees to owasp there is
> nothing to stop this also.
> The 60/40 is a default setting. It encourages high quality training and
> trainers but also generate revenue for the foundation.
> So what happens after the result of this vote? Do anything really change
> given all scenarios are optional.
> Eoin Keary
> Owasp Global Board
> +353 87 977 2988
> On 19 Feb 2014, at 14:25, Fabio Cerullo <fcerullo at owasp.org<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','fcerullo at owasp.org');>>
> wrote:
> Dear all,
> As per the current OWASP Training Model (see
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:Training_Instructor_Agreement.doc),
> the payment schedule for OWASP major conferences is established as a 60/40%
> split between OWASP/Trainer.
> Also, the travel expenses are currently covered by the trainer. It has
> been proposed a different payment schedule in which trainings are offered
> for free or to only cover the expenses for the trainer and all proceedings
> going to the OWASP Foundation and/or a particular project.
> For full details about the various proposals discussed at the OWASP
> Leaders mailing list, please visit:
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2014-February/010869.html
> Could you please cast your vote in the following link to answer the
> question:
> Should OWASP allow other options in addition to the current training model?
> https://docs.google.com/a/owasp.org/forms/d/1OMmIHFLm6fouHwfSLB9sA7lCwvqtB4hdE8cnUFZ4meo/viewform
> Lines are open for the next 72 hours (until Saturday 22rd February at
> 00:00GMT). After that time, votes will be counted and results announced.
> Make your voice count!
> Regards,
> Fabio
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