[Owasp-leaders] Training & Donation

Bev Corwin bev.corwin at owasp.org
Tue Feb 18 13:35:57 UTC 2014


Ok, no problem. I don't mind moving on and being permanently confused on
the matter! LOL! Cheers, Bev


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> Bev,
>
> The choice to apologize was mine and mine alone. I'd like to move on and
> get back to the mission at hand.
>
> "It's all good!" :)
>
> Aloha,
> --
> Jim Manico
> @Manicode
> (808) 652-3805
>
> On Feb 18, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> Hi folks, despite what the compliance folks have ruled, I don't see
> anything offensive in the language used. Can the compliance people give
> more info about why they "judged" or "ruled" this as inappropriate? If
> people are sensitive, good to recognize that, too, I suppose. Nice to see
> the reconciliations, but shouldn't people also be apologetic for being over
> sensitive? In a true reconciliation, usually apologies on both sides are in
> order.
>
> Bev
>
> On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>>  Folks,
>>
>> I had a talk with Dr. Wetter and Martin Knoblock (our compliance
>> officer). Both deemed my email below to be well over the line and was
>> considered to be disrespectful and offensive. I am deeply sorry that I
>> offended Dirk and anyone else who read my email. Martin and Dirk are right
>> - I should have been much more respectful in my response.
>>
>> I will endeavor to do better in the future and I am thankful that Martin
>> and Dirk brought this to my attention.
>>
>> Dr. Wetter, I am very, very grateful for all you do for the OWASP
>> foundation and I am mortified that I offended you. I will not cross this
>> line again.
>>
>> Respectfully,
>> Jim Manico
>> OWASP Board Member
>>
>>
>>
>>    On 2/17/14, 10:46 PM, Dirk Wetter wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 02/17/2014 10:10 PM, schrieb Jim Manico:
>>>>
>>>>> Dirk,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm surprised that a man of your intellectual prowess is equating
>>>>> giving *some* free training at national conferences with not being
>>>>> able to pay our full time staff. I will forgive this lack of logic
>>>>> (and inability to use Google effectively).
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_association
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>
>>>> ah, ok. Pure trade.  I obviously didn't spot the obvious -- well
>>>> for me it was not. But maybe I didn't get your sarcasm here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Dirk, off now
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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