[Owasp-leaders] Training & Donation

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Tue Feb 18 13:18:39 UTC 2014


The choice to apologize was mine and mine alone. I'd like to move on and
get back to the mission at hand.

"It's all good!" :)

Jim Manico
(808) 652-3805

On Feb 18, 2014, at 1:57 PM, Bev Corwin <bev.corwin at owasp.org> wrote:

Hi folks, despite what the compliance folks have ruled, I don't see
anything offensive in the language used. Can the compliance people give
more info about why they "judged" or "ruled" this as inappropriate? If
people are sensitive, good to recognize that, too, I suppose. Nice to see
the reconciliations, but shouldn't people also be apologetic for being over
sensitive? In a true reconciliation, usually apologies on both sides are in


On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 4:28 AM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

>  Folks,
> I had a talk with Dr. Wetter and Martin Knoblock (our compliance officer).
> Both deemed my email below to be well over the line and was considered to
> be disrespectful and offensive. I am deeply sorry that I offended Dirk and
> anyone else who read my email. Martin and Dirk are right - I should have
> been much more respectful in my response.
> I will endeavor to do better in the future and I am thankful that Martin
> and Dirk brought this to my attention.
> Dr. Wetter, I am very, very grateful for all you do for the OWASP
> foundation and I am mortified that I offended you. I will not cross this
> line again.
> Respectfully,
> Jim Manico
> OWASP Board Member
>    On 2/17/14, 10:46 PM, Dirk Wetter wrote:
>>> Am 02/17/2014 10:10 PM, schrieb Jim Manico:
>>>> Dirk,
>>>> I'm surprised that a man of your intellectual prowess is equating
>>>> giving *some* free training at national conferences with not being
>>>> able to pay our full time staff. I will forgive this lack of logic
>>>> (and inability to use Google effectively).
>>>> http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_association
>>>> ;-)
>>> ah, ok. Pure trade.  I obviously didn't spot the obvious -- well
>>> for me it was not. But maybe I didn't get your sarcasm here.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Dirk, off now
>>   _______________________________________________
>> OWASP-Leaders mailing list
>> OWASP-Leaders at lists.owasp.org
>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders
> _______________________________________________
> OWASP-Leaders mailing list
> OWASP-Leaders at lists.owasp.org
> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/attachments/20140218/4a33eba1/attachment.html>

More information about the OWASP-Leaders mailing list