[Owasp-leaders] Should OWASP make a statement on the Security of the Internet and Pervasive Monitoring?

Jason Johnson jason.johnson at owasp.org
Wed Nov 13 22:31:28 UTC 2013


I was just about to say the same... Josh you must type fast. This topic
should not have been moved. I preach this all the time with my HIVE
project. Ideas should always be heard... Bad form Martin, bad form sir...

Jason Johnson
OWASP
Oklahoma City, OK
 On Nov 13, 2013 4:12 PM, "Josh Sokol" <josh.sokol at owasp.org> wrote:

> Martin,
>
> I am extremely disappointed in your efforts to stifle Tobias' efforts
> before he even got started.  Everyone at OWASP should be encouraged to come
> up with innovative ideas and ways to drive our mission forward without fear
> of being bullied into submission.  And by immediately telling Tobias that
> the wiki is not the right place for this discussion you are actually
> violating the "openness" part of OWASP's core mission.  In my opinion,
> discussion of topics like this should be done in full visibility of the
> world at large.  This is not a political statement, but rather, one that is
> tandem to OWASP's core mission of making application security more
> visible.  Subversion of this process by any party, government or otherwise,
> should not be tolerated.  I agree fully with Tobias that guidance on this
> subject is in line with our mission and is worth our time and efforts.  Did
> you even read what he wrote before you dismissed it?
>
> ~josh
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 3:47 PM, <netherlands at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Tobias,
>>
>> Before the question if OWASP should make a statement or not, by putting
>> it on the OWASP Wiki, you already did. In my opinion this is very
>> unfortunate!
>>
>> Second, I do not think OWASP as an non-political institution should make
>> a statement in this matter. Even more as the subject itself is off OWASP
>> topics and area.
>>
>> My 2 cents,
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -martin
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
>> Sender: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2013 21:28:18
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>> Subject: [Owasp-leaders] Should OWASP make a statement on the Security of
>>  the Internet and Pervasive Monitoring?
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