[Owasp-leaders] Restarting Governance Mailing List

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Sun May 26 01:59:57 UTC 2013

Agreed, Michael.

Dinis : I made a point to announce this to approximately 20,000 folks via the official OWASP social media outlets.


And Dinis, even if I disagree with some of your recent actions or requests, I am still very grateful regarding your enthusiasm to help make OWASP better.

Jim Manico
OWASP Board Member and Volunteer

> Missed leaders list on my original reply. Those interested should subscribe
> to the governance list. No need to flood this list with conversations not
> everyone is interested in.
> On May 25, 2013 3:54 PM, "Dinis Cruz" <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hi Michael, if you want this new list to have the critical mass that the
>> owasp-leaders has, you will need to add all current owasp-leaders emails to
>> it (and then let the ones that don't want to be there to unsubscribe from
>> it).
>> Dinis
>> Dinis Cruz
>> Blog: http://diniscruz.blogspot.com
>> Twitter: http://twitter.com/DinisCruz
>> Web: http://www.owasp.org/index.php/O2
>> On 25 May 2013 18:29, Michael Coates <michael.coates at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Leaders,
>>> I'm restarting the governance mailing list. Board meetings are open,
>>> meeting notes are open and the calls are open for anyone to participate.
>>> But I think there is still value to create a forum where new governance
>>> ideas can be discussed.
>>> I've restarted the governance mailing list and intend to regularly post
>>> topics here for discussion. The idea is that the community, leaders,
>>> public, etc can discuss their thoughts and ideas and iterate. We, as the
>>> board, can reference this discussion to get a pulse of the community. Also,
>>> this is a place to tackle hard problems where lots of input is helpful.
>>> For example, we have ~$200k in chapter allocated funds. Some chapters
>>> have high balances and spend it, some have high balances and don't, a lot
>>> of chapters have low balances and do nothing. The system works will in some
>>> places and has lots of stagnated funds in other. How do we create a system
>>> that ensures the $100k that is dormant is used to benefit OWASP's mission.
>>> I have lots of ideas and I'd love to hear discussion and other thoughts.
>>> This type of information can all feed into the background information
>>> used for board votes on topics or even be the source of new motions for
>>> review at the board.
>>> Why not on the leaders list?
>>> I asked the leaders this question on the leaders list and received strong
>>> feedback to have it on the governance list. I agree with this. Governance
>>> discussions are not something everyone wants to participate in and then
>>> threads can be long. I think a dedicated place for anyone that is
>>> interested is the right balance.
>>> Quality of conversation
>>> The list is fully open - anyone can participate. But I will hold people
>>> to our code of ethics. It's not a place for mudslinging, accusations, or
>>> deep dives on random conspiracy / what if scenarios. We will assume
>>> positive intent and require all participants to act professional and with
>>> respect.
>>> We have existing channels to raise specific concerns or allegations that
>>> need to be addressed (i.e. contact us form).
>>> I sent an initial couple posts to the list yesterday. Please do have a
>>> look.
>>> https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/governance
>>> --
>>> Michael Coates | OWASP | @_mwc
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