[Owasp-leaders] "Is it me or has the OWASP website just fallen into disarray?"

Sarah Baso sarah.baso at owasp.org
Sun Mar 10 19:36:02 UTC 2013


Estimated 32k? Where do you get that?


On Mar 10, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:

> On 10 Mar 2013, at 19:09, Jim Manico wrote:
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>> Simon,
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>> I think this is a very fair comment from the community.
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> It depends Jim. Clearly wiki is the lowest barrier of entry to contribution, and is the leading tool for knowledge management. However, as you are well aware - the OWASP community is not just the contributors it is also the consumers. And the consumers want a CMS; because that is a better tool for consumption.
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> So we actually have a dilemma, based on the perspective of the different needs and requirements of two different communities; one of the consumer and the other of the content creators.
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> Now the other dilemma is that of the 1-9-90 rule of social media; and OWASP is deeply effected by it. Which is to say:
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> 1% Leaders & Visionaries
> 9% Creators & Contributors
> 90% Consumers
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> We have estimated around 32k? people in the community at large; and yet we have only 200 (set 320) active visionaries; and I would also guess that we have nothing close to 3200 contributors. Which is to say that we have very real problems with barriers to participation; because even the math says that we should be doing better on average.
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>> I feel we need (this is just my opinion as a volunteer) two major initiatives:
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>> 1) A new homepage
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> I don't disagree with those goals, but see my comments above - I imagine this stuff solves itself in short order if we can solve the root issues that prevent people from just doing what they obviously want to do so much that they complain about not being able to do it. ;-)
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>> 2) A major cleanup of the wiki; primarily deprecating old content, secondary a little reorganization.
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> A great example supporting my beliefs is the major clean up of the projects area of the wiki. This was done by a single person; who had *zero* experience with wiki technology before they started reorganising the OWASP projects page.
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> What are your thoughts?
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> Dennis
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