[Owasp-leaders] [Governance] Membership funds

Venkatesh Jagannathan venki at owasp.org
Wed Jun 12 15:46:57 UTC 2013

Hi all,
    I had to reply to this regarding the budgets from Chennai chapter.

Chenna chapter has been conducting meetings regularly. We duid not meet for
the last 6 months or so. But I have never claimed funds because it is too
low from our side. I have been spending my monies because the amount I
spend per session is around INR 600 (US$ 12 or less). I practically feel
that it is not worth my time to undergo the process for claiming as I would
be practically spending more meoey to get it back.

As such, I have been using varuious companies premises for conducting the
meetings and this is borne by them and as it is arranged through other
OWASP members of their organizations.

Thanks & Regards,
// Sent from my handphone. please excuse typos.
On Jun 12, 2013 3:58 PM, "Tobias" <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hi Dennis, hi all,
> actually just to be precise, only 21 projects have a budget as of:
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0Atu4kyR3ljftdEdQWTczbUxoMUFnWmlTODZ2ZFZvaXc&output=html
> And to add and subtract from various budgets should not be the biggest
> challenge.
> Some of the questions I am concerned about is to find out whether
> certain chapters had any activity in their account or whether the money
> has been dormant for a long time.
> So some questions I might have to better understand the situation:
> - how many of our chapters have actually made at least 1 reimbursement
> request within the last 12 months?
> (is the process too cumbersome, or are some of the funds just too low;
> e.g. some budgets USD20 may not get you very far...)
> - do we have "inactive" chapters that still run a budget accounts?
> I can understand the bucket approach, equally I am a bit concerned
> because I like the grassroots component to give resources to chapters
> and projects, because that is where a lot of our activities happen and
> our volunteers are. And honestly as a chapter lead to know I can plan an
> event and possibly fly in a speaker without red tape is quite
> encouraging. The center is there to support and obviously needs its own
> budget, but am hesitant to concentrate _all_ resources into the center
> or in buckets.
> One general approach for me would be to align buckets with revenue
> generating activities (chapter meetings, AppSecs, projects). That way we
> invest to maximize utility for the community and public. That would mean
> chapters should still have budgets.
> Just my 5cents.
> Best regards, Tobias
> On 12/06/13 02:56, Dennis Groves wrote:
> > On 11 Jun 2013, at 9:40, Sarah Baso wrote:
> >
> >> I agree that this is an ok approach that would make it much easier for
> >> projects and chapters to access funds. So where would the funding for
> >> these
> >> "buckets" come from? Should we eliminate some of the other funding
> >> designations in the budget?
> >>
> >> Open to ideas...
> >
> > I think it makes sense from an operations stand point as well because
> > there would be less to manage; if all the money was designated for
> > 'community development' and perhaps as many as a dozen active
> > participants were drawing from that bucket - you still have much less
> > work than carving it up into 193 chapters and 158 projects and
> > managing each like a separate bank account.
> >
> > Dennis
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