[Owasp-leaders] OWASP "Certification"

Wed Jul 3 17:55:08 UTC 2013

AppSecEMEA and AppSecUSA are going to be good ones -- don't miss the passion register today

https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_AppSec_Conference

Interesting and related: http://www.associationmanagementblog.com/whos-running-this-place/

On Jul 3, 2013, at 1:30 PM, "Dennis Groves" <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:

> On 3 Jul 2013, at 5:52, Dinis Cruz wrote:
> 
> Dennis you are wrong with your logic. Ironically if we sold the use of the OWASP brand, it would actually increase its abuse, since it would legitimise the bad behaviour.
> 
> Dinis, with all due respect, it is you who are actually committing a logical fallacy! It is known as the 'slippery slope:'
> 
> 1) If we sell the use of the brand
> 2) then increased brand abuse will happen 
> 3) therefore selling the brand must not happen
> 
> This sort of reasoning is fallacious because there is no reason to believe that one event must inevitably follow from another without an argument for such a claim.
> 
> Because of this fallacy I can easily argue a counter point such as:
> 
> "Given with our enormously large watch dog community, and our increasingly litigious society, brand abuse would actually decrease if we license it because corporations would not want to be sued for brand usage violations."
> 
> This type of argument is by no means invariably fallacious, but the strength of the argument is inversely proportional to the number of steps between antecedents, and directly proportional to the causal strength of the connections between adjacent steps.
> 
> In any event this entirely misses the point. My hypothesis is: OWASP misses numerous ways to capitalise on the community intellectual property that we could and should be capturing to further strengthen and support OWASP in its mission.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Dennis Groves, MSc
> Email me or schedule a meeting.
> 
> "Unless someone like you...cares a whole awful lot...nothing is going to get better...It's not." -- The Lorax
> 
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