[Owasp-leaders] OWASP "Certification"

Dennis Groves dennis.groves at owasp.org
Wed Jul 3 08:33:59 UTC 2013

On 3 Jul 2013, at 1:27, Tobias Glemser wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
> first of all thanks for your detailed answer.
> Of course OWASP needs money to be able to move on. If we have a money 
> problem, we have to address the issue. I expect the criticality has 
> never been that obvious (at least to me).

Thanks Tobias.

>> As a community I believe we need to accept the fact that when OWASP
>> profits, we are all in a much better position to pursue our 
>> altruistic mission.
> We do, it's just the question how. I don't think this is a TRUE/FALSE 
> decision on the question if licensing is the right way, there has to 
> be a discussion and I'm happy we have this discussion now. I see the 
> risk we lose the brands integrity aka value if we start licensing it. 
> If we lose the brands value, we've lost everything.

Agree, it is a very slippery slope that I suggested. And I don't pretend 
to have any answers - I am just making a single suggestion. I think it 
is important to start asking the question.

> I'd be happy if we address this risk and start making an opinion.

I agree.

> P.S.: Congrats to Josh for raising this huge amount of money. Our 
> chapter raised ~30k EUR last year by our conference so yes: All 
> chapters can learn from each other so maybe we should check the 
> chapter handbook if we can improve.

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