[Owasp-leaders] OWASP Top 10 - 2013 Release Candidate Now Available

Jim Manico jim.manico at owasp.org
Tue Feb 19 13:48:23 UTC 2013


Tom,

I've personally seen you abuse OWASP rules as you see fit on a number of
occasions. This note from you is disingenuous as best.

Again, when you use an OWASP list in a way that leads to financial
gain for a company you work for, you are out of line.

If you would like me to start cherry picking situations where you have been
abusive of OWASP brand and chapter guidelines, I'd be happy to.

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On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:34 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:


Here let me help you Dennis/Jim with intent.

https://www.owasp.org/index.php/How_to_Start_an_OWASP_Project

If this linked procedure outlined the process and what is acceptable then
expectations and examples
can be managed to.

The email question sent to Jim off-list (not the 700+ folks on this thread
now)
was to identify where we could reference the proper attribution and
acknowledgement
prior to such harsh slamming of long time other volunteers that I see as
destructive and manic behavior

As always your welcomed to your opinion on the role of a
elected board member, I disagree with your police comment.
The primary purposes of the board of directors (all of them)
is to ensure the organization is on track with regard to meeting its goals,
as well as to craft policies in support of those goals.
Nonprofit organizations are operated by two distinct groups: the board of
directors,
which determines policies and plans, and the organization staff, which
carries out plans and implements policies.

Or perhaps I just prefer not to be harsh with people over email
to people out of professional courtesy
https://www.owasp.org/index.php/About_The_Open_Web_Application_Security_Project#Core_Values
as we are all on the same team if we really
want to get anything constructive accomplished.



On Feb 19, 2013, at 10:00 PM, "Dennis Groves" <dennis.groves at owasp.org>
wrote:

On 19 Feb 2013, at 21:28, Jim Manico wrote:

Common decency, ethics and reason, Tom. That's what policy I am

referring to, pal.


On Feb 19, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Tom Brennan <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:


What written owasp project policy are you attempting to manage to?



Tom, I am a bit concerned that you have such a question. How can you serve
on the board and have so little knowledge of the organisations missions and
ethics? How can you serve the community when you have so little connection
with the mission? Like a police man you should be protecting and serving
the community as a board member.


Dennis

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