[Owasp-leaders] Vendor Neutrality

Eoin eoin.keary at owasp.org
Thu Feb 14 23:54:38 UTC 2013


Yes our training is zapper free. It's an opportunity for me to visit the west coast security folks.

Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
+353 87 977 2988


On 14 Feb 2013, at 15:31, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

>> Even folks on this list who give
> away "free" classes are simply obtaining contacts for consultancy and
> product sales down the road.
> 
> I've been doing significant free training in the OWASP community. For
> example, Eoin and I are delivering a large free training at RSA and
> they offered us a badge zapper for lead collection. We said "No way,
> this is an OWASP event where we are representing OWASP. No way."
> 
> Folks may not agree with my stance here and I'm ok with that, but I
> try to practice what I preach. Heck Eric, I've sponsored Chapter
> meetings and brought sales folks from my employer (everyone is free to
> participate) with me, but I ask them not to pitch and not to bring
> marketing material, even when they sponsor food. Just listen and meet
> folks.
> 
> My philosophy is: contribute, serve the OWASP mission, respect the
> ethical guidelines, and deliver free talks and trainings in a vendor
> neutral way. This is NOT being goody-2-shoes, it's also good for
> business. Folks want to do business with you when you respect OWASP
> and demonstrate appropriate ethics.
> 
> And yes, my affiliation with OWASP has radically helped my career and
> I've personally done well the past few years. This is why I started
> 2012 by contributing 1000$ of my personal funds to OWASP. I challenge
> the board and other leaders who can afford it to do the same.
> 
> Also, the board has a legal/fiduciary and financial responsibility to
> uphold the principles of a non-profit 501c3. We have been audited by
> accountants in the past who said we were ok. But there are things that
> accountants looking at numbers on paper will never see.
> 
> I for one am going to continue to do my best as a board member (and
> just as someone who really loves OWASP) to uphold the values of vendor
> neutrality.
> 
> --
> Jim Manico
> @Manicode
> (808) 652-3805
> 
> On Feb 14, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Eric Sheridan <eric.sheridan at owasp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Even folks on this list who give
>> away "free" classes are simply obtaining contacts for consultancy and
>> product sales down the road.
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