[Owasp-leaders] OWASP PPTX presentation template - propose to change/revise

jason.johnson at p7n.net jason.johnson at p7n.net
Fri Aug 16 18:05:49 UTC 2013


http://prezi.com/_oug648-i4yr/?utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=copy

What about something like this?



On 2013-08-16 13:29, Yvan Boily wrote:
> I will not participate in the design requirements/branding/etc
> discussion, but I am very partial to HTML5 slides and presentations,
> and so when this work has reached release state, I will happily port
> the work to an HTML5 slide template that supports remote presenter
> view (most of my presos for the last year have used
> http://paulrouget.com/dzslides/ [7] )
> 
> Cheers,
> Yvan
> 
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 10:20 AM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tobias,
>> answers inline.
>> All the best, Tobias (from HK/London)
>> 
>> On 16/08/13 08:26, Tobias Glemser wrote:
>>> Hi Tobias,
>>> 
>>> good point. There are other templates. On the same page like you
>> where I
>>> guess:
>>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Presentations [1]
>>> Linked are:
>>> 
>> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:Presentation_Template_v2011.zip
>> [2] (I like
>>> this one, we use it in Germany with additional chapter related
>> graphics)
>>> 
>> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:OWASP_Presentation_Template.pptx
>> [3]
>> Yeah, I've been using this template until begin of 2013. (and I
>> liked it...)
>> We ask people on our AppSecEU web page
>> (https://appsec.eu/submissions/call-for-presentations/ [4]) to use
>> the new
>> template, so I tried it with the problems as described.
>> 
>>> And the one you references of course.
>>> 
>>> Maybe we can get a feeling which direction feels right at the
>> Chapter
>>> Workshop next week in Hamburg?
>> Absolutely. Let's talk about this at the workshop next week.
>> Small problem for me: I will be giving the CISO training that day
>> and
>> only arrive later to the chapter workshop. Bad luck for me. :-(
>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> 
>>> Tobias (the other one :) )
>>> 
>>>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>>> Von: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>> [mailto:owasp-leaders-
>>>> bounces at lists.owasp.org] Im Auftrag von Tobias
>>>> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. August 2013 18:38
>>>> An: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>>> Betreff: [Owasp-leaders] OWASP PPTX presentation template -
>> propose to
>>>> change/revise [ Z1 UNGESICHERT ]
>>>> Wichtigkeit: Niedrig
>>>> 
>>>> Hello all,
>>>> 
>>>> not sure whether others out there share the same feeling, but I
>> would like
>>> to
>>>> propose to revisit and change our latest presentation powerpoint
>> template.
>>>> 
>>>> The last few weeks I prepared a lot of OWASP presentations and
>> took the
>>>> effort to do everything with our "new" ppt template from last
>> year. And I
>>>> feel there are a number of practical design problems with our
>> latest
>>> ppt/pptx
>>>> template. So I would like to propose to revise it.
>>>> 
>>>> Just in case you are wondering which one I mean, this is it:
>>>> 
>> https://www.owasp.org/images/7/76/OWASP_Presentation_Template.zip
>> [5]
>>>> (btw. I noticed, quite a number of people are still using an
>> older ppt
>>> design
>>>> template...)
>>>> 
>>>> On first glance, the new design looks cool and modern, but IMHO
>> it has a
>>>> number of practical flaws that make it very hard to work with:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. the title page:
>>>> the page has a dark blue background with a white image in the
>> centre. So,
>>> if
>>>> you write a title over several lines with white characters (as
>> you are
>>>> supposed by the template) on that, it becomes partially very
>> hard to read
>>>> (i.e. read white char on white background... ) - note: I
>> experimented with
>>>> various font colours, and none really works. Although red would
>> work, but
>>>> that is not a good font colour for a title page, either. So the
>> key is to
>>> change
>>>> the background image to something more homogeneous.
>>>> - the subtitle section is a problem, too. The grey font is
>> equally not
>>> very good
>>>> to read - though I totally get it why the designer chose grey -
>> because
>>> you
>>>> can't use white as half the background is white and you can't
>> use black or
>>>> dark font colour as half the background for the subtitle is dark
>> blue) -
>>> so grey
>>>> is a compromise, but hard to read on both. Again best would be
>> to change
>>>> the background image or shape.
>>>> 
>>>> 2. normal pages:
>>>> the wave like design of the title bar looks cool, but:
>>>> - it takes a lot of space of the slide (much more than many
>> other
>>> templates)
>>>> - due to the fact that it is mixed light/dark design, you can
>> use for the
>>> slide
>>>> title only the upper right corner, or you run in the same
>> problem as with
>>> the
>>>> title slide (light char on light background is impossible to
>> read). So the
>>> space is
>>>> very limited and you have to do multi-line titles which takes
>> too much
>>> space
>>>> from the slide.
>>>> The large curvy title bar on the normal slides also does not go
>> so well
>>> with
>>>> graphics (which then cut or overlay the design).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> My suggestions are:
>>>> Make a design revamp. Either with small changes or complete
>> revamp.
>>>> 1. reduce or change the white "lock" image on the title slide 2.
>> don't
>>> have
>>>> large areas of mixed light and dark background if you have any
>> text in
>>> front of
>>>> it 2.1. make the title slide with less contrast (either all
>> light colour
>>> so you can
>>>> use dark fonts or all dark background and light fonts) 2.2.
>> important:
>>> remove
>>>> or reduce the wave curvy like design border on the title and all
>> slides or
>>> make
>>>> it much much smaller, e.g. instead of several cm difference,
>> only maximum
>>>> 1cm.
>>>> 2.3. change the logo on the normal slides to no longer include
>> the OWASP
>>>> text, this can save a lot of space we can use for title space of
>> the
>>> normal
>>>> slides. IMHO: we don't need the text "OWASP The Open Web
>> Application
>>>> Security Project" on every single slide we have. The normal
>> OWASP logo is
>>>> enough.
>>>> 
>>>> Don't get me wrong: I can see that the design looks cool and
>> fresh, but
>>> from
>>>> a presenters perspective it feels very unpractical to me. And
>> IMHO design
>>>> needs to support function - not hinder it. Maybe we can keep a
>> cool fresh
>>>> design but still improve functionality with some moderate design
>> changes.
>>>> 
>>>> After AppSecEU, there might be a good opportunity to look at the
>> design
>>> and
>>>> make some practical adjustments or changes.
>>>> 
>>>> Just my 5cents,
>>>> 
>>>> All the best, Tobias
>>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> Links:
> ------
> [1] https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Category:OWASP_Presentations
> [2] 
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:Presentation_Template_v2011.zip
> [3] 
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/File:OWASP_Presentation_Template.pptx
> [4] https://appsec.eu/submissions/call-for-presentations/
> [5] https://www.owasp.org/images/7/76/OWASP_Presentation_Template.zip
> [6] https://lists.owasp.org/mailman/listinfo/owasp-leaders
> [7] http://paulrouget.com/dzslides/
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