[Owasp-leaders] OWASP PPTX presentation template - propose to change/revise

Tobias tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
Fri Aug 16 17:42:00 UTC 2013


Colin,

thanks for the feedback.

Following your suggestion, I started a page for collecting the design
suggestions for the presentation template:
https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Presentation_Template_2013_revision_Design_Criteria
(and added your points already)

All the best, Tobias




On 16/08/13 09:11, Colin Watson wrote:
> Tobias
>
> Well said.
>
> Would it be worth documenting "requirements" in one place on the wiki
> for new/future templates?  I think there was some comment when this
> one appeared, but can't find the correspondence. New ones should have
> some sort of review before adoption.
>
> Other "Top 15" comments:
>
> - Needs licence info on (every?) page
> - Needs copyright statement on title page
> - Needs space for author names, event name, date and location (like an
> older template had, but now gone)
> - Needs page numbers
> - Must not encourage corporate logo addition
> - Background "violet" on home page does not go all the way up to the
> swish - if kept, needs fixing
> - Not enough space for titles on normal pages (Allow for long and
> wrapping titles)
> - Normal pages must have a white background - not shaded at all
> - Default font sizes are scarily large, and should be smaller
> - No background images behind body text (there are none on this, but
> there were in a previous incarnation)
> - Consider small OWASP logo and abbreviated name in footer only of normal pages
> - Dislike "lock" images - very clichéd
> - Ensure all designs are copyright OWASP, and we have the ability to
> re-use/distribute etc at no cost
> - Obtain licensing details for any stock images included, and keep
> them for the record
> - Set default document properties
>
> Apart from that it's fine!
>
> It would also be interesting to test a new template, how easy it is to
> import an existing well-used deck, and also check that a typical
> presentation "works" in the new template.
>
> Colin
>
>
> On 15 August 2013 17:38, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>>
>> not sure whether others out there share the same feeling, but I would like
>> to propose to revisit and change our latest presentation powerpoint
>> template.
>>
>> The last few weeks I prepared a lot of OWASP presentations and took the
>> effort to do everything with our "new" ppt template from last year. And I
>> feel there are a number of practical design problems with our latest
>> ppt/pptx template. So I would like to propose to revise it.
>>
>> Just in case you are wondering which one I mean, this is it:
>> https://www.owasp.org/images/7/76/OWASP_Presentation_Template.zip
>> (btw. I noticed, quite a number of people are still using an older ppt
>> design template...)
>>
>> On first glance, the new design looks cool and modern, but IMHO it has a
>> number of practical flaws that make it very hard to work with:
>>
>> 1. the title page:
>> the page has a dark blue background with a white image in the centre. So, if
>> you write a title over several lines with white characters (as you are
>> supposed by the template) on that, it becomes partially very hard to read
>> (i.e. read white char on white background... ) - note: I experimented with
>> various font colours, and none really works. Although red would work, but
>> that is not a good font colour for a title page, either. So the key is to
>> change the background image to something more homogeneous.
>> - the subtitle section is a problem, too. The grey font is equally not very
>> good to read - though I totally get it why the designer chose grey - because
>> you can't use white as half the background is white and you can't use black
>> or dark font colour as half the background for the subtitle is dark blue) -
>> so grey is a compromise, but hard to read on both. Again best would be to
>> change the background image or shape.
>>
>> 2. normal pages:
>> the wave like design of the title bar looks cool, but:
>> - it takes a lot of space of the slide (much more than many other templates)
>> - due to the fact that it is mixed light/dark design, you can use for the
>> slide title only the upper right corner, or you run in the same problem as
>> with the title slide (light char on light background is impossible to read).
>> So the space is very limited and you have to do multi-line titles which
>> takes too much space from the slide.
>> The large curvy title bar on the normal slides also does not go so well with
>> graphics (which then cut or overlay the design).
>>
>>
>> My suggestions are:
>> Make a design revamp. Either with small changes or complete revamp.
>> 1. reduce or change the white "lock" image on the title slide
>> 2. don't have large areas of mixed light and dark background if you have any
>> text in front of it
>> 2.1. make the title slide with less contrast (either all light colour so you
>> can use dark fonts or all dark background and light fonts)
>> 2.2. important: remove or reduce the wave curvy like design border on the
>> title and all slides or make it much much smaller, e.g. instead of several
>> cm difference, only maximum 1cm.
>> 2.3. change the logo on the normal slides to no longer include the OWASP
>> text, this can save a lot of space we can use for title space of the normal
>> slides. IMHO: we don't need the text "OWASP The Open Web Application
>> Security Project" on every single slide we have. The normal OWASP logo is
>> enough.
>>
>> Don't get me wrong: I can see that the design looks cool and fresh, but from
>> a presenters perspective it feels very unpractical to me. And IMHO design
>> needs to support function - not hinder it. Maybe we can keep a cool fresh
>> design but still improve functionality with some moderate design changes.
>>
>> After AppSecEU, there might be a good opportunity to look at the design and
>> make some practical adjustments or changes.
>>
>> Just my 5cents,
>>
>> All the best, Tobias
>>
>>
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