[Owasp-leaders] OWASP PPTX presentation template - propose to change/revise

Tobias tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
Fri Aug 16 17:40:14 UTC 2013

Hi Tom,

thanks for the link.
Actually, I have a number of nice templates, that's not the problem.
But we (as in OWASP) are asking people to use this template for their
AppSec and chapter presentations, so I wanted to give some feedback on
it. Furthermore, there is an advantage when having a common template for
OWASP: common design strengthens the OWASP brand.

So I hope we can improve the current recommended template or design one
that will be widely accepted.

Best regards, Tobias

On 16/08/13 12:37, Tom Brennan - OWASP wrote:
> Have you seen the appsecusa template you could use that and tweak it
> http://appsecusa.org/2013/resources/#
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Tobias <tobias.gondrom at owasp.org
> <mailto:tobias.gondrom at owasp.org>> wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> not sure whether others out there share the same feeling, but I would
>> like to propose to revisit and change our latest presentation
>> powerpoint template.
>> The last few weeks I prepared a lot of OWASP presentations and took
>> the effort to do everything with our "new" ppt template from last
>> year. And I feel there are a number of practical design problems with
>> our latest ppt/pptx template. So I would like to propose to revise it.
>> Just in case you are wondering which one I mean, this is it:
>> https://www.owasp.org/images/7/76/OWASP_Presentation_Template.zip
>> (btw. I noticed, quite a number of people are still using an older
>> ppt design template...)
>> On first glance, the new design looks cool and modern, but IMHO it
>> has a number of practical flaws that make it very hard to work with:
>> 1. the title page:
>> the page has a dark blue background with a white image in the centre.
>> So, if you write a title over several lines with white characters (as
>> you are supposed by the template) on that, it becomes partially very
>> hard to read (i.e. read white char on white background... ) - note: I
>> experimented with various font colours, and none really works.
>> Although red would work, but that is not a good font colour for a
>> title page, either. So the key is to change the background image to
>> something more homogeneous. 
>> - the subtitle section is a problem, too. The grey font is equally
>> not very good to read - though I totally get it why the designer
>> chose grey - because you can't use white as half the background is
>> white and you can't use black or dark font colour as half the
>> background for the subtitle is dark blue) - so grey is a compromise,
>> but hard to read on both. Again best would be to change the
>> background image or shape.
>> 2. normal pages:
>> the wave like design of the title bar looks cool, but:
>> - it takes a lot of space of the slide (much more than many other
>> templates)
>> - due to the fact that it is mixed light/dark design, you can use for
>> the slide title only the upper right corner, or you run in the same
>> problem as with the title slide (light char on light background is
>> impossible to read). So the space is very limited and you have to do
>> multi-line titles which takes too much space from the slide.
>> The large curvy title bar on the normal slides also does not go so
>> well with graphics (which then cut or overlay the design).
>> My suggestions are:
>> Make a design revamp. Either with small changes or complete revamp.
>> 1. reduce or change the white "lock" image on the title slide
>> 2. don't have large areas of mixed light and dark background if you
>> have any text in front of it
>> 2.1. make the title slide with less contrast (either all light colour
>> so you can use dark fonts or all dark background and light fonts)
>> 2.2. important: remove or reduce the wave curvy like design border on
>> the title and all slides or make it much much smaller, e.g. instead
>> of several cm difference, only maximum 1cm.
>> 2.3. change the logo on the normal slides to no longer include the
>> OWASP text, this can save a lot of space we can use for title space
>> of the normal slides. IMHO: we don't need the text "OWASP The Open
>> Web Application Security Project" on every single slide we have. The
>> normal OWASP logo is enough.
>> Don't get me wrong: I can see that the design looks cool and fresh,
>> but from a presenters perspective it feels very unpractical to me.
>> And IMHO design needs to support function - not hinder it. Maybe we
>> can keep a cool fresh design but still improve functionality with
>> some moderate design changes.
>> After AppSecEU, there might be a good opportunity to look at the
>> design and make some practical adjustments or changes.
>> Just my 5cents,
>> All the best, Tobias
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