[Owasp-leaders] Open, Leaders, AppSec

Eoin eoin.keary at owasp.org
Wed Nov 7 20:20:21 UTC 2012


Sorry if that last email sounded harsh. Was just stirring the pot.

I do see a place for many governance issues such as what you guys said.

I'm not sure what replaces democracy.



Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
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On 7 Nov 2012, at 19:04, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> Dennis,
> 
> AppSec touches so many different areas of life, business, government, etc that it makes sense for technical conversations to stray into, ahem,  "side-channel" conversations.
> 
> We will be setting up a new list for this soon. Stay tuned....
> 
> ...and thank you everyone for being such passionate members of the OWASP community. I do not want to water-down the flames of that passion. I only redirect it. :)
> 
> Aloha,
> --
> Jim Manico
> @Manicode
> (808) 652-3805
> 
> On Nov 7, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hello Jim,
>> 
>> As the chief violator of the rule, I thank you! I believe it is good leadership to cull the community and keep the focus. 
>> Second, I am sure we all agree this list is already way to much noise and not enough signal. I fully agree with the secondary list; although perhaps owasp-general is more appropriate - since there is no way to predict what choatic topics may float through the aether there? Lets say owasp-philosophy for serious discussions about ethics, and the philosophy of security! 
>> 
>> Please accept my sincerest apologies everyone;
>> 
>> 
>> Dennis
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:
>>> Leaders,
>>> 
>>> OWASP is indeed an open community. But please, let's not be open like
>>> Goatse. I politely suggest that that we keep the leaders list
>>> conversations to Application Security and OWASP Governance.
>>> 
>>> If you want to debate global politics, philosophy, religion, art, how
>>> to properly milk a cow or whatever else floats your boat, we can set
>>> up a new list, say owasp-philosophy.
>>> 
>>> But may I politely suggest that we lower the noise (this goes for me
>>> as well) and focus on application security?
>>> 
>>> Aloha,
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jim Manico
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> -- 
>> Dennis Groves, MSc
>> dennis.groves at owasp.org
>> 
>> 
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