[Owasp-leaders] Why I don't vote and neither should you...

Eoin eoin.keary at owasp.org
Mon Nov 5 22:50:54 UTC 2012


For me, I live in a republic. People died so I could vote. That's what drives me. But I don't think political debate is a place on an OWASP list. Fair?


Eoin Keary
Owasp Global Board
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On 5 Nov 2012, at 22:33, Yvan Boily <yvanboily at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
> 
> I don't know if anyone followed up off list, and I thought about not responding, but your post is still bugging me several days later.
> 
> I understand all of the different reasons why someone shouldn't vote, or why the democratic system in most countries that allow elections are flawed, and to be honest, as a Canadian watching the US election, it is, for me, a spectator sport (sadly, since our economy is closely tied to the US economy in many ways).
> 
> The problem is very neatly summed up by Winston Churchill in his speech in 1947 "No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed, it has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all those other forms that have been tried from time to time."
> 
> My problem with it is that the people are presented with an opportunity to influence change through a vote, and as flawed a system as it is, it, along with the courts, provide the only mechanisms that can be used to select leadership and affect policy.  If all of the smart people who understand how to apply game theory and are aware of the shenanigans fail to get involved and motivate people, then ultimately all of the not-so-smart people who can be swayed by talking points and stump speeches will be the mass that choose the direction of the government.
> 
> I know the US election is tomorrow, and new information or activity at this point would be ineffective, but it is just not practical to sit on the side-lines and argue against the system.  If you have the right to vote, you owe it to all of the people who don't have that right to exercise it, no matter how flawed the system is.  You don't have to be a politician, but there is more to democratic society than just casting a vote; for the society to thrive it requires in engaging in political discourse with friends and family, and promoting and living the ideals that its members would aspire to, and it takes smart, principled people engaging in the political process.
> 
> Sometimes it is good to leave the academic discussions in the Ivory Tower, do the practical thing, and go out and vote!
> 
> 
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org> wrote:
>> http://scriptogr.am/dennis-groves/post/why-i-dont-vote-and-neither-should-you.
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>> Dennis Groves, MSc
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