[Owasp-leaders] A new LinkedIn group for confirmed OWASP members only?

Chris Schmidt chris.schmidt at owasp.org
Tue Mar 27 14:39:43 UTC 2012

I absolutely agree with Andy here. Adding value is the key and this takes
us dangerously close to just becomin another part of the alphabet soup that
people append to their titles and losing relevance. Adding real and
tangible value is the key to increasing our membership.
On Mar 27, 2012 7:23 AM, "Andy Lewis" <alewis at owasp.org> wrote:

>  I think we’re losing sight of the Mission.  Part of the magic of OWASP
> is that it’s OPEN.  Anybody can come to a meeting, paid or not.  If people
> aren’t signing up, it’s because there’s no perceived value in signing up.
> Having an @owasp.org address adds value.
> If you want members, add value.  Members-only discounts, members-only
> promotions, members-only DefCon backstage passes, etc add value.
> I don’t have a specific answer other than this: add value in a way that
> doesn’t make us seem like a bunch of people looking down our noses at
> non-members.
> My 2cents.
> On 3/26/12 9:12 PM, "Helen Gao" <helen.gao at owasp.org> wrote:
> Dear OWASP leaders,
> Do you think a new LinkedIn group for confirmed OWASP members will attract
> new members? But will it alienate people? A decision will be made in
> AppSecDC in April. Please reply with your opinion by Sunday, 4/2/12.
> By the way, did you know that the existing Global OWASP Foundation
> LinkedIn group <
> http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874>  has more
> than 10 thousand members? In just one week of March 11, 2012, 86 people
> joined, 12 discussions took place and 7 jobs were created.
>   *A new LinkedIn group for confirmed members *
> *What's the issue*:
>    - Currently there is a Global OWASP Foundation LinkedIn group <
>    http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874> . It is
>    free and open.
>    - OWASP Confirmed Member <
>    http://www.linkedin.com/groups?about=&gid=4342746&report%2Esuccess=TAGQm5_B9ecwEPi7AtV-NGJjHoJV7WxoFbipydZrtoVPNQgWOUnL8lZj8v4Fi_efzerGsu5jt1ZNxbgOz-yQ8GA_JKRAMRHOdq9GTte76LaFDnVn3UJvJ9HrtwZdeRxnzSnL05Yi8ixSheCQVUTLJuPjHSEFDntOORiL00SBEWCSCN2GOP53E3gwyQES_UVQ4mMvuF1jt1Z1NDmQIe7vu9PrkoadDQtpb_DnGQi>
>     is a subgroup that's designed for paid and honorary members only.
> *GMC’s recommendation* – GMC discussed the matter in the March meeting.
>    - The existing free and open LinkedIn group <
>    http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874>  should
>    not be changed or impacted by the new group.
>    - The name of the group is OWASP Confirmed Member. Confirmed means
>    paid and honorary membership.
>    - A new, OWASP Confirmed Member subgroup is a good idea to increase
>    membership.
>    - The new group should be used as and only as a digital membership
>    card which is similar to the printable membership card currently issued at
>    the end of a RegOnline payment transaction.
>    - There should be no discussion, forum or other content restricted by
>    this subgroup. OWASP material will remain free and open.
>    - We should avoid wording that alienate people and deviate from the
>    OWASP mission. We need to pay attention to content on OWASP website,
>    RegOnline, marketing material, etc.
>    - Protect member privacy in the subgroup
>    - OWASP reserves the right to remove a subgroup member
>    - There will be two ways to join the subgroup.
>    1. RegOnline – There will be a check box that say something like this: Join
>       LinkedIn for OWASP Confirmed Members: Yes/No LinkedIn for OWASP Confirmed
>       Members is a …. This a subgroup of Global OWASP Foundation LinkedIn group
>       which is open to all LinkedIn members. The default option is No.
>       2. LinkedIn – A person can apply to join the subgroup on the
>       webpage and a request will be sent to the group administrator. Once the
>       applicant’s email address is confirmed to be a current paid or honorary
>       member then he/she will be added to the group.
>       - A person will be removed from the group if his/her paid
>       membership expires or he/she stops being qualified for honorary status.
>       - Open issue -  Should all qualified people be automatically added
>    to the group or each person has to request to join?
> --
> Helen Gao
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