[Owasp-leaders] A new LinkedIn group for confirmed OWASP members only?

Andy Lewis alewis at owasp.org
Tue Mar 27 13:14:43 UTC 2012

I think we¹re losing sight of the Mission.  Part of the magic of OWASP is
that it¹s OPEN.  Anybody can come to a meeting, paid or not.  If people
aren¹t signing up, it¹s because there¹s no perceived value in signing up.

Having an @owasp.org address adds value.

If you want members, add value.  Members-only discounts, members-only
promotions, members-only DefCon backstage passes, etc add value.

I don¹t have a specific answer other than this: add value in a way that
doesn¹t make us seem like a bunch of people looking down our noses at

My 2cents.  

On 3/26/12 9:12 PM, "Helen Gao" <helen.gao at owasp.org> wrote:

> Dear OWASP leaders,
> Do you think a new LinkedIn group for confirmed OWASP members will attract new
> members? But will it alienate people? A decision will be made in AppSecDC in
> April. Please reply with your opinion by Sunday, 4/2/12.
> By the way, did you know that the existing Global OWASP Foundation LinkedIn
> group <http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874>  has more
> than 10 thousand members? In just one week of March 11, 2012, 86 people
> joined, 12 discussions took place and 7 jobs were created. 
> A new LinkedIn group for confirmed members
> What's the issue:
> * Currently there is a Global OWASP Foundation LinkedIn group
> <http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874> . It is free
> and open. 
> * OWASP Confirmed Member
> <http://www.linkedin.com/groups?about=&gid=4342746&report%2Esuccess=TAGQm5_B9e
> cwEPi7AtV-NGJjHoJV7WxoFbipydZrtoVPNQgWOUnL8lZj8v4Fi_efzerGsu5jt1ZNxbgOz-yQ8GA_
> SBEWCSCN2GOP53E3gwyQES_UVQ4mMvuF1jt1Z1NDmQIe7vu9PrkoadDQtpb_DnGQi>  is a
> subgroup that's designed for paid and honorary members only.
> GMC¹s recommendation ­ GMC discussed the matter in the March meeting.
> * The existing free and open LinkedIn group
> <http://www.linkedin.com/groups/Global-OWASP-Foundation-36874>  should not be
> changed or impacted by the new group.
> * The name of the group is OWASP Confirmed Member. Confirmed means paid and
> honorary membership.
> * A new, OWASP Confirmed Member subgroup is a good idea to increase
> membership. 
> * The new group should be used as and only as a digital membership card which
> is similar to the printable membership card currently issued at the end of a
> RegOnline payment transaction.
> * There should be no discussion, forum or other content restricted by this
> subgroup. OWASP material will remain free and open.
> * We should avoid wording that alienate people and deviate from the OWASP
> mission. We need to pay attention to content on OWASP website, RegOnline,
> marketing material, etc.
> * Protect member privacy in the subgroup
> * OWASP reserves the right to remove a subgroup member
> * There will be two ways to join the subgroup.
>> 1. RegOnline ­ There will be a check box that say something like this: Join
>> LinkedIn for OWASP Confirmed Members: Yes/No LinkedIn for OWASP Confirmed
>> Members is a Š. This a subgroup of Global OWASP Foundation LinkedIn group
>> which is open to all LinkedIn members. The default option is No.
>> 2. LinkedIn ­ A person can apply to join the subgroup on the webpage and a
>> request will be sent to the group administrator. Once the applicant¹s email
>> address is confirmed to be a current paid or honorary member then he/she will
>> be added to the group.
>> * A person will be removed from the group if his/her paid membership expires
>> or he/she stops being qualified for honorary status.
> * Open issue -  Should all qualified people be automatically added to the
> group or each person has to request to join?
> -- 
> Helen Gao 
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