[Owasp-leaders] ABORT the OWASP Email Lists

Dale Castle dale.castle at owasp.org
Sat Jun 9 23:47:53 UTC 2012


Another +1 Achim! Mailman has a lot of features.

On Thursday, June 7, 2012, Andy Lewis wrote:

> +1 Achim!
>
> We're encouraging our Chapter to follow us on twitter (@OWASP303) and
> on Linked In (OWASP Denver).  Both have been marginally effective, but
> both together haven't been as effective as a working list-server.
> We're also using Meetup and some Facebook, but I haven't had a chance
> to see what the effectiveness looks like for those methods...
>
> On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 2:13 AM, Achim <achim at owasp.org <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Is there a decission that lists move to GoogleGroups? I doubt.
> >
> > Before makeing the move, someone needs to verify that GoogleGroups
> > satisfies all the needs and (used) features which we currently have
> > with mailman at lists.owasp.org.
> >
> > See also the outcome of the Summit 2011 working group about the
> > mailing lists.
> >
> > If we detect that something mandatory is missing at the new system
> > (wether GoogleGroups or whatever), things are more worse than some
> > delayed or duplicated mails as we have now.
> >
> > I'm also vexed about the issues we currently have, but changing
> > anything from ground up may not fix them in short or mid term.
> >
> > IIRC according some mails in this list, the problems are due to
> > various migrations last year. So this experience tells us, that
> > makeing somthing new does not always make it better.
> > Let's fix the problems we know, instead of risking additional ones.
> >
> > Said this, I'd continue as follows:
> >  #1 priority: fix left-over migration issues (delayed messages)
> >  #2 priority: fix the SPAM filter
> >  #3 priority: build an international team who can technical
> >               administer lists.owasp.org (sendmail, mailman, etc.)
> >  #4 priority: someone can reread the Summit 2011 outcome and make
> >               a verification of other systems/tools to be used
> >               instead of what we currently have
> > Does this make sense?
> >
> > Please let's do the work first instead of changing anything.
> > I don't speak against innovation and experimentation, but please don't
> > experiment on what is OWASP's spine (mail, website) as long as it's
> > not proven that it works as needed.
> > However, if someone sets up a new system, and we then can migrate to
> > it (using scripts or whatever) and then switch to it, simply do it
> > we're all fine with that ;-)
> > No offence meant to anyone or anything and many thanks to the work
> > Larry and Matt did behind the scenes.
> >
> > Achim
> >
> >
> > Am 07.06.2012 08:28, schrieb Dinis Cruz:
> >> Is there a solution/tool to help in this migration (from Mailman to
> Google
> >> Groups)
> >>
> >> Or should I go and create an O2 Script to do it?
> >>
> >> Dinis Cruz
> >>
> >
> >> On 29 May 2012 17:45, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The OWASP emails lists are beyond messed up right now.
> >>>
> >>> I call for a full abort to Google Groups as an interstitial measure
> >>> until this is resolved by the foundation.
> >>>
> >>> Several projects have already quietly made this move, and several
> >>> chapters are considering it now.
> >>>
> >>> So, if your chapter or project is struggling with the Mailmain mess, do
> >>> not ask for permission, just make the move to Google groups as you see
> >>> fit until a workable solution presents itself. What we have now is NOT
> >>> workable at all.
> >>>
> >>> Innovation and Experimentation are our core values so GO FOR IT.
> >>>
> >>> My 2 cents,
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Jim Manico
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