[Owasp-leaders] Security 101 Mailing List?

psiinon psiinon at gmail.com
Fri Jan 27 09:55:53 UTC 2012

I completely agree that we should be reaching out to other communities.
But dont think that you cant do that via OWASP chapter meetings as well.
In Manchester we have a fairly even split between the builders, breakers
and defenders, and a large proportion of 'newbies'.
At the last meeting I asked what sessions people would like us to present,
and it was clear that many people wanted talks on 'the basics'.
For next weeks meeting we have 2 talks, I'm talking about the OWASP top ten
and Dominic Chell is talking about evaluating iOS applications.
All 60 places have been taken and I'm trying to make some more available as
there are more people who really want to attend.



On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dennis Groves <dennis.groves at owasp.org>wrote:

> On 26 Jan 2012, at 19:16, Jim Manico wrote:
>  What if a developer could confidently know that the best place in the
>> world to turn for input validation is OWASP?
>> I feel we serve the developer community better if "we go to them"
>> instead of requiring them "to come to us".
> Indeed Jim, your are touching upon a very important and critical idea.
> In fact, Dinis & I were just talking about this on the phone.
> This is exactly what is required; we need more evangelism as Guy Kawasaki
> would say.
> In fact OWASP needs to encourage and enable OWASP members to work
> externally with others.
> If we don't leave the OWASP community, we get blue blooded, our ideas
> become stale, and indeed, we fail to be the Open inclusive community we
> strive to be; and we become insular and exclusive. We fail for all the same
> reasons that communities before OWASP failed… Even if we were to find the
> magical security answer among ourselves, it would be worthless unless we
> shared. :-)
> Reaching out and helping others (not waiting for them to come to us),
> co-operating, communicating and being friendly and helpful. That is totally
> where it is at.
> Cheers,
> Dennis
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