[Owasp-leaders] [GPC] Fw: Remote Repositories on SourceForge - TOPIC CLOSED

Sherif Koussa sherif.koussa at gmail.com
Mon Jan 9 02:07:32 UTC 2012


+1 here too.

On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 5:47 PM, Amro <amro at owasp.org> wrote:

> +1 for moving this topic somewhere else.
> Sent from BlackBerry®. Excuse typo's and brevity.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Heinrich <christian.heinrich at owasp.org>
> Sender: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
> Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2012 22:19:12
> To: dinis cruz<dinis.cruz at owasp.org>
> Cc: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org<owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] [GPC] Fw: Remote Repositories on SourceForge -
>  TOPIC CLOSED
>
> Dinis,
>
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_Inquiries/Google_Hacking_Project
> was intended as character assassination due to the accusations being
> proven false beyond a reasonable doubt from "unverified sources".
>
> A majority of the OWASP Board recognise your involvement was simply
> driven by your poor attempt at seeking revenge that I denied Ounce a
> second presentation of 02 at OWASP EU 2009.  As expected, due to a
> change in employment their brand abuse was no longer an issue for you
> i.e.
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2007-January/000185.html
>
> Also, in relation to the false complaint that Justin Derry "lost"
> sponsorship money at OWASP AU 2008
> i.e.https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2009-March/002080.html
> that you attempted to discuss with me at OWASP EU 2009, I would like
> to highlight the significant loss of $45,510.64 over budget for a
> total spend of $226,606.29 i.e.
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/committees-chairs/2011-July/000322.html.
>
> Furthermore, the OWASP Board has also admitted that the suspension is
> illegal under the OWASP Foundation Rules at that time i.e. the section
> cited by Chris Schmidt didn't exist, and was simply the only avenue of
> containing the embarrassing fallout that you created.
>
> Consider their reluctance to publish the outcome of the inquiry i.e.
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-September/009090.html
> and
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-September/009089.html
>
> What supports this is that the OWASP Board didn't suspend you in light
> of the significant damage to my character and reputation as a result
> of the character assassination because this would have resulted its
> due process being further questioned than it already had i.e.
> 1. "i have removed the "audience" from this email,something Dinis, you
> should of done"
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-July/008566.html
> 2. http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-July/008598.html
> 3. "is there a process for this which stands up to scrutiny and is
> unbiased" i.e.
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-July/008706.html
>
> Just so you know Dinis, in light of your claim that I was "pissing
> people off in Australia" with OWASP I was able to schedule two
> presentations within Australia after OWASP suspended me and not
> because of my "association" with OWASP i.e.
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-November/003946.html
> and http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-October/009205.html.
>  I was also assisting Andrew van der Stock with the relationship with
> Ruxcon as I was an invited to speak by them in 2005, 2006 and 2008 but
> apparently even in light of my good relationship Ruxcon they still
> (for some odd reason) are behind these sock puppets according to Chris
> Gatford but them again Chris Gatford denies ever being in contact with
> Brad, apparently this was Ruxcon too but I somehow don't fall for this
> like you or "phishing expert" Brad did.
>
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-November/009231.html,
> https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2010-December/004040.html
> and https://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-board/2007-August/000517.html
> demonstrate your ulterior motive in relation to attacking other
> successful open source projects like w3af because Andreas refused it
> to become an OWASP Project and the lack of regard for the concerns
> expressed by the South American and Asia Pacific communities.
>
> While Chris's quote i.e. "Although Christian has in the past made
> valuable contributions to this community the only contribution I have
> seen since his return is to make accusations of other OWASP
> volunteers" the OWASP Board deliberately ignored you last time i.e.
> http://lists.owasp.org/pipermail/owasp-leaders/2011-May/005304.html
> because they realise I have numerous other examples, such as your O2
> presentation to Microsoft, you taking credit for the introduction of
> Mozilla to OWASP, etc of your poor behaviour the fact is that but
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/io/how-open-source-projects-survive-poisonous-people
> can be applied to your lack of character and integrity when you jump
> on the bandwagon against me and the resulting damage to OWASP globally
> and in Australia that it causes.
>
> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 8:37 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
> > Chris is spot on, and is last point on Christian membership should be
> acted
> > upon.
> >
> > We only get negative energy from Christian and he has made wild+offensive
> > accusations to a large number of core Owasp contributors.
> >
> > Although some of the issues have some merit, the way Christian raises
> them
> > always end up in defamation and energy sucking exercises (and actually
> have
> > the side effect to preventing a rational discussion about those issues)
> >
> > I ask the Board to take a position on this issue
> >
> > Dinis Cruz
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Christian Heinrich
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/user:cmlh
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