[Owasp-leaders] Full time OWASP evangelist...

Dennis Groves dennis.groves at owasp.org
Fri Dec 14 23:52:29 UTC 2012


*THE HORSE AND HIS GROOM *
>
>  There was a groom who used to sell his horse's barley to the innkeepers
> and drink all evening long. He would then spend the whole next day combing
> and currying the horse. The horse said to the groom, 'If you really want me
> to look good, then don't sell the food that nourishes me!'
>
If you truly aim to help OWASP please participate in the board meetings and
listen to the problems, and get to know he organization *BEFORE* your
propose solutions.

Dennis


On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 11:06 PM, Jerry Hoff <jerry at owasp.org> wrote:

> If free training works - why not do more?
>
> I don't think any one person will be the focal attention point, but we
> need someone out full time raising awareness and getting corporate
> sponsorship.
>
> For the record I think Dinis Cruz would be great in this role.
>
> Jerry
>
>
> On Dec 14, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Konstantinos Papapanagiotou <
> Konstantinos at owasp.org> wrote:
>
> I've said in many occasions that I'm against OWASP having a CEO, and if an
> "evangelist" means CEO, then I guess I'm against it as well. The main
> reason would be that it would potentially place too much attention on a
> single person and that person might end up actually "being" OWASP for a lot
> of people.
>
> I'd like to see that the responsibilities of that person will be before I
> nominate someone. Also, what characteristics/qualities are we looking at?
>
> Will he be doing training? Will he be the only one doing training? Why?
> Are we moving away from the free training model that for example Eoin and
> Jim gave? From the Training Days (
> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Greece/Training/OWASP_projects_and_resources_you_can_use_TODAY)
> that were huge success both financially and in terms of reaching out to the
> community?
>
> Aside from that I think that there are numerous amazing initiatives that
> kicked off at some point but eventually stayed there and never grew
> (training days are a perfect example). We need paid employees to make sure
> that such initiatives keep going. I don't care if we call them project
> managers, CEO, evangelists or whatever.
>
> Kostas
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 14, 2012 at 6:53 PM, Jerry Hoff <jerry at owasp.org> wrote:
>
>> I think a technical evangelist / CEO role would pay for himself / herself
>> almost immediately.
>>
>> Imagine doing training where all the $$ goes back to OWASP, in addition
>> to spending time doing fundraising, etc....
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On Dec 14, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Jerry,
>> > It comes down to cash and revenue stream. I'd love  to have a CEO of
>> owasp also.
>> >
>> >
>> > Eoin Keary
>> > Owasp Global Board
>> > +353 87 977 2988
>> >
>> >
>> > On 14 Dec 2012, at 04:52, Jerry Hoff <jerry at owasp.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Esteemed Board and Leaders,
>> >>
>> >> I've been doing a lot of thinking about OWASP and our mission - and I
>> really think we need a little more balance.
>> >>
>> >> We obviously have a strong volunteer base consisting of many of the
>> most experienced and motivated web app sec pros on the planet.
>> >>
>> >> However, I think we also need more full time owasp employees to
>> evangelize, coordinate and guide us as we experience sustained growth,
>> attention and involvement.
>> >>
>> >> We want to make appsec more visible, to inform as many stakeholders as
>> possible of the security issues that plague web and application development.
>> >>
>> >> To better achieve these ends I move to start a petition / movement to
>> hire a full time evangelist.
>> >>
>> >> Ideally this would be a position filled by a vocal advocate for OWASP
>> and appsec who can take our message and advance it out to the developer
>> community at large.
>> >>
>> >> This role could also assist the other full time owasp employees shape
>> and guide the organization and its outreach efforts.
>> >>
>> >> Along with owasp, I've been highly involved with toastmasters - what
>> they have done as an organization can easily serve as an organizational
>>  template for us.
>> >>
>> >> I have deep love and respect for OWASP and everyone who volunteers -
>> I'm extremely confident that investing in a full time evangelist will reap
>> huge returns and cement OWASP even more firmly in the development world.
>> >>
>> >> Leaders, what do you think? Would love to hear from those who agree /
>> disagree. Anyone interested in full time OWASP evangelizing?
>> >>
>> >> In the meantime I'm going to be working towards getting corporate
>> sponsorship to fund more full timers.
>> >>
>> >> Distinti saluti,
>> >> Jerry
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