[Owasp-leaders] Full time OWASP evangelist...

Dinis Cruz dinis.cruz at owasp.org
Fri Dec 14 07:56:33 UTC 2012

They are different things, and yeah we need those too :)

PS Jim: http://csharp-repl.apphb.com/36

Dinis Cruz

On 14 December 2012 07:38, Jim Manico <jim.manico at owasp.org> wrote:

> Jerry,
> If we substitute "evangelist" with "Marketing Director" or "community
> coordinator" or "volunteer coordinator" or "developer community liaison" -
> would that still work for you?
> Let's try a different name to skirt around Dinis' indifference for the
> term "evangelist" even though you were talking about:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Evangelism_marketing<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evangelism_marketing>- right?
> Cheers, Jerry.
> - Jim
> PS Dinis:  NTdkZTVkOTcxOTAxOGYwMmVhYzc4Yz**k1OTZmNTlkMDY=
>  We already have that, it's the OWASP leaders (and we should be
>> investing in supporting them better)
>> In terms of hiring staff, there are a lot of other roles that are
>> needed first (sysadmin, tech editors, more project management, event
>> organisers, designer, reviewers, video/audio editors, etc)
>> And btw, the term 'evangelize' really doesn't work outside the US and
>> has a lot of religious connotations.
>> That said, if you know of a company that wants to pay somebody to have
>> that role, them that's great :)
>> Dinis Cruz
>> On 14 Dec 2012, at 04:52, Jerry Hoff <jerry at owasp.org> wrote:
>>  Esteemed Board and Leaders,
>>> I've been doing a lot of thinking about OWASP and our mission - and I
>>> really think we need a little more balance.
>>> We obviously have a strong volunteer base consisting of many of the most
>>> experienced and motivated web app sec pros on the planet.
>>> However, I think we also need more full time owasp employees to
>>> evangelize, coordinate and guide us as we experience sustained growth,
>>> attention and involvement.
>>> We want to make appsec more visible, to inform as many stakeholders as
>>> possible of the security issues that plague web and application development.
>>> To better achieve these ends I move to start a petition / movement to
>>> hire a full time evangelist.
>>> Ideally this would be a position filled by a vocal advocate for OWASP
>>> and appsec who can take our message and advance it out to the developer
>>> community at large.
>>> This role could also assist the other full time owasp employees shape
>>> and guide the organization and its outreach efforts.
>>> Along with owasp, I've been highly involved with toastmasters - what
>>> they have done as an organization can easily serve as an organizational
>>>  template for us.
>>> I have deep love and respect for OWASP and everyone who volunteers - I'm
>>> extremely confident that investing in a full time evangelist will reap huge
>>> returns and cement OWASP even more firmly in the development world.
>>> Leaders, what do you think? Would love to hear from those who agree /
>>> disagree. Anyone interested in full time OWASP evangelizing?
>>> In the meantime I'm going to be working towards getting corporate
>>> sponsorship to fund more full timers.
>>> Distinti saluti,
>>> Jerry
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