[Owasp-leaders] Why it's ok to pay leaders

Dale Castle dale.castle at owasp.org
Wed Apr 18 12:44:42 UTC 2012


Dave,

  The Top Ten project is excellent. I was just illustrating that if we have
limited resources, I would rather focus on a few projects and do them well
than have several inactive projects.
   I personally don't want to be paid for my work either. Thanks for your
comments, Dave.

Dale
OWASP Charlottesville

On Wednesday, April 18, 2012, Dave Wichers wrote:

> I’m not sure if you are specifically proposing to fund the Top 10 project
> or not.****
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> The Top 10 project is NOT inactive, it just gets updated every 3 years on
> a schedule. 2004, 2007, 2010, 2013, etc.****
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> It’s on my plate to start up the next update to the Top 10 pretty soon so
> we have a complete draft available before end of 2012. And then we plan to
> have an open comment period just like we did last time and then release a
> final version sometime around late Q1 or early Q2 of 2013.****
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> And I don’t need any funding. I just need time …****
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> -Dave****
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> Dave Wichers****
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> OWASP Board Member****
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> OWASP Top 10 Project Lead****
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> OWASP …****
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> *From:* owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org');> [mailto:
> owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org <javascript:_e({}, 'cvml',
> 'owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org');>] *On Behalf Of *Thomas Brennan
> *Sent:* Friday, April 13, 2012 1:25 PM
> *To:* Dale Castle; OWASP Leaders
> *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-leaders] Why it's ok to pay leaders****
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> Awesome throw down Dale!****
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> NYC Chapter will add 25% also. Two bounty payments of $1337 to reward (2)
> project sprints that move a project from inactive/alpha to beta or a beta
> to release.****
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> *chapter leaders* In support of the reboot will your chapter(s) also add
> 25% of you chapter bucket to the reboot initiative to incententivize
> volenteer efforts?****
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> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Donation_Scoreboard****
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> Not "paying" simply a less talk more *action* bounty.
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> On Apr 13, 2012, at 4:31 PM, Dale Castle <dale.castle at owasp.org> wrote:***
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> I am in the process of rebooting my chapter and find it frustrating to see
> many outdated projects. I agree that we need to focus on critical projects
> like OWASP top ten and those directly supporting that effort and archive
> others. I pledge 25% of my chapter funding to this effort.****
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> Dale****
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> Charlottesville Chapter Leader
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> On Friday, April 13, 2012, Eoin wrote:****
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> Hi,****
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> The wiki page is here:****
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> https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Projects_Reboot_2012****
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> I think we have debated this enough, written blogs and had phone
> conversations.****
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> I hope for the board to ratify, or not the proposal today.****
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> Eoin****
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> On 13 April 2012 11:10, John Wilander <john.wilander at owasp.org> wrote:****
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> I would prefer a referendum among leaders preceded by both sides
> presenting their side of the matter on a wiki tab each. We would also need
> a info page what is actually proposed. "Pay" is too vague. This is an
> important question for the foundation. If a majority of leaders vote the
> community will have a much easier time accepting the outcome than if the
> board decides.****
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> If the board doesn't want a referendum I assume you will not take part in
> the discussion nor the vote, Eoin, since it's your proposal.****
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>    Regards, John****
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> 13 apr 2012 kl. 11:33 skrev Eoin <eoin.keary at owasp.org>:****
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> Im afraid that is not true.....****
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> The 2008 summer of code, leaders were paid.****
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> Great projects were delivered.... check the wiki.****
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