[Owasp-leaders] Thomas Ryan - OWASP - OccupyWallStreet - Gawker

Chris Schmidt chris.schmidt at owasp.org
Mon Oct 17 01:37:49 EDT 2011


Try rereading my email please.
On Oct 16, 2011 10:04 PM, "Christian Heinrich" <christian.heinrich at owasp.org>
wrote:

> Chris,
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:48 PM, Chris Schmidt <chris.schmidt at owasp.org>
> wrote:
> > I have brought this *back* into the open forum of OWASP where it belongs.
> >
> > Now to pose the question, what, if anything, does anything in your
> response
> > have to do with the issue at hand.
> >
> > Let me just re-paste the quote in question here to eliminate *any*
> question
> > whatsoever about what I am referring to:
> > "Ryan said he knows Loyd through their mutual involvement in the Open Web
> > Application Security Project, a non-profit computer security group of
> which
> > Ryan is a board member."
> >
> > This is about the outward image of the OWASP organization, not YOU or
> > whatever it is that you have done/are doing/will do. As such a valuable
> > contributor who has been around since before *I* even knew about OWASP I
> can
> > imagine that you understand my concerns about OWASP as an organization
> being
> > associated with either side of this debate or any other political debate.
> >
> > So can we please move past the debate of what you did or didn't do and
> move
> > on to the topic of what this email was originally talking about, fixing
> the
> > quote in an article that could align OWASP as an ORGANIZATION with the
> > actions described in the article? I am sorry you have recieved
> threatening
> > emails. It would be equally unjust if OWASP became the target of these
> > threats, or even worse - if people within the organization became targets
> > simply because they are affiliated with this organization.
> >
> > I simply want to make sure the organization and OWASP brand is protected
> > from the actions of ANY member, and I brought this up at the board
> meeting
> > in MN last month.
> >
> > Thank you for you response, perhaps we can move on to the real issue now?
> >
> > Again, this has nothing to do with your OWASP involvement - this is about
> > misinformation in an article that happens to be about you that is
> > potentially damaging to the OWASP brand and organization, as well as
> > potentially other individuals that are part of the organization.
>
> The facts are: 1. that no one other than OWASP members have reacted to
> the mention of the OWASP "Brand " and 2. the rumor mill will now be
> kicked into motion because of Thomas' Ryan emotive e-mail caused as he
> is now under duress - note that Thomas completely revealed more than
> he had too and neither did he address what you believed you have a
> right to know.
>
> Those who participate in open communities still have the fundamental
> right to keep aspects of their life private from the public.
>
> I would suggest that you sleep on it and if you believe there is an
> issue tomorrow than you can discuss it with Tom Brennan.
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Christian Heinrich
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/user:cmlh
>
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