[Owasp-leaders] Thomas Ryan - OWASP - OccupyWallStreet - Gawker

Chris Schmidt chris.schmidt at owasp.org
Sun Oct 16 20:21:43 EDT 2011


That was basically what I was getting at - Thanks Mark!

I would assume this would be a Connections Commitee thing, but if need
be I will draft a response and post it here for editing - it should
probably come from an *actual* board member. :)

On 10/16/2011 6:19 PM, Mark Bristow wrote:
> At least one person on the rasping list expressed concern, believing
> he was a board member.  I think we should make a statement that he's
> not a board never and reach out to gawker for a correction.
>
> Misconceptions in the press can get out of hand quickly.
>
> Mark Bristow
> Global Conferences Committee, Chair
> mark.bristow at owasp.org <mailto:mark.bristow at owasp.org>
> (703) 596-5175
>
> Sent concisely from my wireless device
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Rex Booth" <rex.booth at owasp.org <mailto:rex.booth at owasp.org>>
> To: "Chris Schmidt" <chris.schmidt at owasp.org
> <mailto:chris.schmidt at owasp.org>>
> Cc: "owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
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> Subject: [Owasp-leaders] Thomas Ryan - OWASP - OccupyWallStreet - Gawker
> Date: Sun, Oct 16, 2011 8:15 pm
>
>
>
> Ah.
>
> Well, my concerns are stated below about the "board" title.  The
> article isn't exactly Pulitzer material, and I don't think it infers
> any involvement on behalf of OWASP.
>
> Our members (and sometimes leaders) do stupid crap all the time - same
> as any other organization.  I don't see the need to put out a press
> release each time that happens unless they're explicitly doing so
> under in the name of OWASP.  Just my opinion, though - reasonable
> minds can differ.
>
> Rex
>
> On 10/16/2011 8:08 PM, Chris Schmidt wrote:
>> "Ryan said he knows Loyd through their mutual involvement in the Open
>> Web Application Security Project, a non-profit computer security
>> group of which Ryan is a board member."
>>  
>> On 10/16/2011 6:07 PM, Rex Booth wrote:
>> > Yeah, I get that - thus my reply.
>> >
>> > But are we reading the same article? I don't see anything about
>> OWASP in it.
>> >
>> > On 10/16/2011 7:58 PM, Chris Schmidt wrote:
>> >>
>>> The intent is not to judge his opinions on OWS - to each their own,
>>> and what he does professionally or personally is none of my
>>> business. The point is that he is identified as a board member of
>>> OWASP which implies alignment of the organization and in fact the
>>> way it reads, sounds as if the actions taken were done so as an
>>> OWASP initiative.    
>>>  
>>> On 10/16/2011 5:53 PM, Rex Booth wrote:
>>> > I know Tom Ryan, but I'm not going to weigh in on his activities
>>> regarding occupy wall street, though I will say he's no stranger to
>>> controversy.
>>>  
>>> > However, I do agree that there are numerous people who say they're
>>> on the board of OWASP when the truth is that they're on the board of
>>> a local chapter. I think the use of a board structure at the local
>>> chapter level is typically excessive and, at best, leads to
>>> confusion about the scope of individual roles within OWASP or, at
>>> worst, provides cover for disingenuous statements and innuendo.
>>>  
>>> > In this case, to my knowledge, Tom is on the board of the NYC
>>> chapter.
>>>  
>>> > Rex
>>>  
>>> > On 10/16/2011 7:42 PM, Chris Schmidt wrote:
>>> > I don't know who the hell Thomas Ryan is, but I am pretty sure he
>>> is not
>>> > a board member for OWASP as he claims in this article on Gawker. I
>>> think
>>> > we need to issue a statement from the organization expressing this.
>>>  
>>> >
>>> http://gawker.com/5850054/meet-the-guy-who-snitched-on-occupy-wall-street-to-the-fbi-and-nypd
>>>
>>>  
>>>  
>>> > Jeff Walton (ESAPI-C++) brought this to my attention. Regardless
>>> of how
>>> > *anyone* in this organization feels about OccupyWallStreet - aligning
>>> > the organization with either side is a really bad idea for numerous
>>> > obvious reasons.
>>>  
>>> > This article has gotten a *ton* of publicity - can we draft a
>>> response
>>> > to Gawker ASAP?
>>>  
>>> >> _______________________________________________
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>>>  
>> >>
>> >
>>
>
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