[Owasp-leaders] OWASP Board, Rebooted

Tony UV tonyuv at owasp.org
Mon Jan 10 11:51:39 EST 2011

Perhaps related to bullet point 2, we should have tenures with proper hand
offs to the newly elected in order that they can (a) provide fresh ideas and
(b) not start anew with new initiatives that will not get implemented due to
length of tenure.




Tony UcedaVelez, CISM, CISA, GSEC

Chapter Lead

OWASP Atlanta


Twitter: @versprite


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[mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of John Wilander
Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 6:39 AM
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Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] OWASP Board, Rebooted


Jim, and all leaders,


Interesting thoughts, both from you and Elisa Warner's linked paper.


No matter what Warner or other researchers say we have the matter in our own
hands and need to figure out our own future and pick up good ideas where
they turn up. Being a computer nerd I've often been misunderstood and mocked
so I'm slightly skeptical to outside "truths" :). Maybe 80 % of what she
says is applicable to us, maybe 100 %.


I'd like to add a few things to the stew though. IMHO these things are also
in play regarding the OWASP Board:

*	We "thank" people by electing them. The most honorary position you
can have within OWASP is to be our chair and after that be one of the few
board members. Great people who have founded us, built some of our foremost
assets, and stayed committed for many years are thanked by the community and
awarded a board seat. Of course we also believe they'll do good on the board
but there is an awarding part of the election too. If we restructure the
board and its assignments we need to 1) find a new way of thanking these
people with an official Hall of Fame or such, and 2) build and spread a new
view on what the board is so we don't go back to awarding our heroes seats
on the board.
*	Changing a board member currently means dethroning him/her. Right
now we only have social pressure to step down (built up from these kind of
discussions) and outright dethroning by the community. Both of those are
very uncomfortable and you typically get strong conservative reactions from
all those who feel bad sacking one of our community heroes. "I like X, let
him stay!". A limit on number on consecutive years as board member would
provide a graceful way of changing the members.
*	Cultural differences are hard to parry if we don't acknowledge them.
Resources for fundraising are spread all over the world. So are OWASP
committed and work-willing people. But when it comes to applying for a board
position or as it's often put "step up", people from various cultures work
very different. Just look at how differently we elect our political leaders
(gosh, we don't even live in democracies all of us). In my limited view I'd
say Americans are very used to "stepping up", the natively English speaking
world has an easier time communicating with Americans so they are more
likely to step up, other parts of Europe have very tight cultural ties to
America so we sometimes manage to step up, and then the likelihood gets
lower for South America, Asia, Middle East, and Africa. Within each cultural
sphere you have other differences. For instance Asian cultures have much
more of a master/apprentice structure and Scandinavian cultures have a
negative attitude towards individuality and success (check Wikipedia for the
"Jante Law"). If we truly want to maximize fundraising and community
outreach our official representatives need to be much more global. And if we
want a Global board we cannot keep asking people to "step up".


   Regards, John

John Wilander, https://twitter.com/johnwilander
Chapter co-leader OWASP Sweden, http://owaspsweden.blogspot.com

Co-organizer Global Summit, http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Summit_2011

Conf Comm, http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Conferences_Committee


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