[Owasp-leaders] Mailing list -> Forum

Dr. Dirk Wetter dirk.wetter at owasp.org
Wed Feb 9 06:28:22 EST 2011


Are we into a hardening phpBB project or yet another CTF competion ? ;-)
SCNR, Dirk

Jason Li schrieb, Am 02/09/2011 12:21 PM:
> We definitely know that email integration is important - this was one of
> the primary lessons we learned when we tried to implement forums three
> years ago following the last 2008 Summit.
> 
> The difficulty we ran into is that there are very few established
> products that support forum mailing list integration. For example, m2f
> is a plugin for phpBB that does exactly what we want - but it's very
> outdated and doesn't work with the latest version of phpBB - as security
> folks, we were remiss to not be using the latest patched version of
> phpBB.  Yahoo Groups also provides mailing lists while having online
> messages, but like Google Groups, requires a Yahoo account. 
> 
> If anyone is aware of an existing product that does online forums and
> mailing list integration automatically, please speak up! :)
> 
> I'm sure that we have the technical capability within OWASP to implement
> email integration ourselves if necessary.
> 
> -Jason
> 
> On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Ofer Maor <ofer.maor at owasp.org
> <mailto:ofer.maor at owasp.org>> wrote:
> 
>     I Don’t think we need a trial to tell the diff between forum and
>     email J
> 
>     Forum is by far more useful for threaded discussions (assuming it’s
>     a good forum J), but has an inherent problem of requiring people to
>     actively load it. As most of us do OWASP as something in addition to
>     their day job, it is obvious this will reduce participation… I have
>     a few forums I’m into (hobbies), and I only go on them when I have
>     some free time. The OWASP mailing list, I get pushed to the outlook
>     and phone which I work on (and I assume it’s similar for many others).
> 
>      
> 
>     This can be partially circumvented by using RSS feeds, though still
>     – you’ll have to open the forum once u get the feed to reply, making
>     it much harder to do “in between” other email related work.  
> 
>      
> 
>     Ofer.
> 
>      
> 
>      
> 
>     *From:* owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>     <mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org>
>     [mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>     <mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org>] *On Behalf Of *Seba
>     *Sent:* Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:29
>     *To:* owasp-leaders
>     *Subject:* Re: [Owasp-leaders] Mailing list -> Forum
> 
>      
> 
>     unless we give it a good trial run, we will keep running un circles
>     here.
> 
>     Let's discuss this on the forum? :-)
> 
>      
> 
>     --Seba
> 
>     On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Ofer Maor <ofer.maor at owasp.org
>     <mailto:ofer.maor at owasp.org>> wrote:
> 
>     I'm against forums, unless coupled with email. I read 90% of my
>     owasp emails from my phone as they r pushed in. If I'd have to
>     actively open a forum I'd likely miss half of what's going on.
> 
>     Ofer.
> 
>     // Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>     On Feb 9, 2011, at 2:23, Jerry Hoff <jerry at owasp.org
>     <mailto:jerry at owasp.org>> wrote:
> 
>     > Hi Leaders,
>     >
>     > I'm writing to put forth an idea that has been floating around
>     OWASP for
>     > a while, but needs to be implemented. The move from email list ->
>     owasp
>     > forum.  Although the mailing lists are published, I think the general
>     > consensus is that the archives are:
>     >
>     > 1) hard to find (in some cases you can only access them via forced
>     browsing)
>     > 2) definitely not user-friendly for searching
>     >
>     > A move to a forum will build a stronger OWASP community (hopefully),
>     > allow for greater transparency among the various chapters, committees
>     > and the board, and will give new members a place to come and more
>     easily
>     > interact with the other members of the OWASP community.   It would
>     leave
>     > searchable record of all the collective OWASP security wisdom in one
>     > place.
>     >
>     > So does anyone have any strong opinions on the future of
>     > forum.owasp.org <http://forum.owasp.org>?  Larry Casey has
>     generously offered to set it up, and I
>     > think it would be a huge plus for the community.  As Michael Coates
>     > suggested, we could then start gradually migrating particular
>     volunteer
>     > groups as a beta, and if it works out, we can ultimately migrate more
>     > mailing lists over to a forum.
>     >
>     > We can also port the existing mail lists archives into the forum, for
>     > historical purposes.
>     >
>     > This would give a centralized home for all the regional chapters,
>     > committees, projects, conferences and the board.
>     >
>     > So leaders, what say you?
>     >
>     > Jerry Hoff
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