[Owasp-leaders] Mailing list -> Forum

Ofer Maor ofer.maor at owasp.org
Wed Feb 9 06:02:01 EST 2011


Quick question - is there a reason we do this discussion on mail? J 

 

How about we find some open dynamic slot today (or tomorrow in case Sarah
will discipline us for adding stuff after the deadline ;-)) and talk it face
to face?

 

Ofer.

 

 

 

From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Jerry Hoff
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:50
To: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Mailing list -> Forum

 

Hi Everyone,

Yes, there is definitely a convenience to email, and but forums offer much
to the community - so i'm working on a solution to provide both.  I just
emailed the developers of a plugin called m2f which allows integration of a
forum + mailman, so it may be possible to do both.

At the leadership meeting last night, one of the biggest complains is a lack
of effective communication.  A forum would go a *long* way to helping solve
this problem, and would make OWASP much more accessible to new members
trying to get up to speed with the organization. 

Let's use our collective intelligence to solve this problem in a forward
looking way.  forum + email backend?  forum + iphone app?  I think it's
clear we have to evolve if we want to expand as an organization, we just
need to think a little outside of the box to get there.

Keep the conversation going.  Anybody else have an opinion on this?


Jerry


On 2/9/11 11:34 AM, Ofer Maor wrote: 

I Don't think we need a trial to tell the diff between forum and email J 

Forum is by far more useful for threaded discussions (assuming it's a good
forum J), but has an inherent problem of requiring people to actively load
it. As most of us do OWASP as something in addition to their day job, it is
obvious this will reduce participation. I have a few forums I'm into
(hobbies), and I only go on them when I have some free time. The OWASP
mailing list, I get pushed to the outlook and phone which I work on (and I
assume it's similar for many others). 

 

This can be partially circumvented by using RSS feeds, though still - you'll
have to open the forum once u get the feed to reply, making it much harder
to do "in between" other email related work.  

 

Ofer.

 

 

From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Seba
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 12:29
To: owasp-leaders
Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Mailing list -> Forum

 

unless we give it a good trial run, we will keep running un circles here.

Let's discuss this on the forum? :-)

 

--Seba

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Ofer Maor <ofer.maor at owasp.org> wrote:

I'm against forums, unless coupled with email. I read 90% of my owasp emails
from my phone as they r pushed in. If I'd have to actively open a forum I'd
likely miss half of what's going on.

Ofer.

// Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 9, 2011, at 2:23, Jerry Hoff <jerry at owasp.org> wrote:

> Hi Leaders,
>
> I'm writing to put forth an idea that has been floating around OWASP for
> a while, but needs to be implemented. The move from email list -> owasp
> forum.  Although the mailing lists are published, I think the general
> consensus is that the archives are:
>
> 1) hard to find (in some cases you can only access them via forced
browsing)
> 2) definitely not user-friendly for searching
>
> A move to a forum will build a stronger OWASP community (hopefully),
> allow for greater transparency among the various chapters, committees
> and the board, and will give new members a place to come and more easily
> interact with the other members of the OWASP community.   It would leave
> searchable record of all the collective OWASP security wisdom in one
> place.
>
> So does anyone have any strong opinions on the future of
> forum.owasp.org?  Larry Casey has generously offered to set it up, and I
> think it would be a huge plus for the community.  As Michael Coates
> suggested, we could then start gradually migrating particular volunteer
> groups as a beta, and if it works out, we can ultimately migrate more
> mailing lists over to a forum.
>
> We can also port the existing mail lists archives into the forum, for
> historical purposes.
>
> This would give a centralized home for all the regional chapters,
> committees, projects, conferences and the board.
>
> So leaders, what say you?
>
> Jerry Hoff
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