[Owasp-leaders] Commercial delivery of courses based on OWASP materials

Mike Boberski mike.boberski at gmail.com
Thu May 13 20:10:51 EDT 2010

Let's start small, lets get some people to sign up for the "phonebook".

We should be so lucky as there is such interest as to think of additional
ways to enhance this!


On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Adam Muntner <adam.muntner at quietmove.com>wrote:

> Dinis, what a great topic.
> I don't think that OWASP should offer favoritism or discriminate
> against any of the groups you listed. A class being delivered by a
> project lead - that's a marketing point for the delivering
> organization more than anything else.
> I like the job board and commercial service sections and how they are
> handled. It's clear that these are listed as a service to the
> community, but that they are not endorsed by OWASP. Mike is right - a
> protected page just like jobs/commercial services. These kinds of
> links should probable be of the nofollow variety.
> Banner ads are already in place, but perhaps OWASP could charge for an
> "enhanced" listing on this page? Such as that a standard free listing
> could be up to 10 characters, while an enhanced listing would be at
> the top of the section, include a graphic image link (logo etc), and
> allow more text.
> This list could get big, and many trainers will be geography-specific.
> What will be the criteria for being listed? Will there be 1000
> independent trainers on it? How useful would such a list be? There is
> just as good an argument for not doing it at all as there is for doing
> it to get the word out and to raise money for owasp.
> Mailing lists, local chapter pages - I don't think we need any formal
> policy about this. The community is pretty good with peer pressure for
> good behavior and self policing. We could also leave it up to each
> list and chapter. If something is over the top, you can be sure there
> will be colorful replies.
> On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 4:05 PM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Taking into account that we want as many people to be exposed to OWASP
> > materials and that there should be a direct relationship between the
> success
> > of these courses and the market penetration of the affected OWASP
> Projects
> > .....  from your point of view, which Variation+Options listed above:
> >    i) are compatible with OWASP's values/independence and SHOULD be
> allowed
> > (but monitored to prevent abuses)
> >    ii) are NOT compatible with OWASP's values and SHOULD NOT be allowed
> >   iii) should only be allowed with 'somebody' (GEC, OWASP Board, Project
> > leader) permission / validation
> >   iv) should be allowed, BUT with the information located at a very
> specific
> > locations (for example what happens with the the OWASP Job Board or
> > the OWASP Commercial Services)
> > Looking forward to hearing your answers and points of view
> > Dinis Cruz
> > OWASP Board Member
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