[Owasp-leaders] OWASP Home Page Project
eoin.keary at owasp.org
Wed Sep 23 05:05:56 EDT 2009
last November in Portugal we talked about tailoring the site to audience on
the OWASP home page.
A technical link and also a user link, both taking a user to a menu of
2009/9/23 Tom Brennan - OWASP <tomb at owasp.org>
> yea http://www.aspectsecurity.com looks really good thumbs up to the guy
> who did it.... want to volunteer some time to owasp ;)
> OWASP needs a pretty website too + the wiki behind it so that we can
> continue our collaboration effort. James McGovern and others have been
> noodling this.. and I hope that the OWASP Mini-Summit happening at the OWASP
> USA 2009 event on November 11th
> http://www.owasp.org/index.php/OWASP_AppSec_DC_2009 will allow for this
> very topic to be flushed out from the collaboration from the membership and
> if someone wants a project this is one of the big ones to lend cycles to.
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Mike Boberski <mike.boberski at cox.net>wrote:
>> I'm surprised no one jumped in on this thread; each is an item in my mind
>> worth exploring; application security is incredibly hard to sell people on,
>> such weak/non-existent mandates in this space. The Agile-like idea for
>> example seems to pop up frequently, I think there is something to it. There
>> is little arguing how the universe latched onto such a superficially silly
>> thing with religious-like zeal; I have one customer right now for example
>> where a development team is hiding behind the Agile Scrum process to the
>> point of defying their management's (and their management's management's,
>> and their management's management's management's) direct instruction to
>> start addressing security concerns.
>> Some initial thoughts on each of the items:
>> I think the site could benefit for some high-level buckets near the top,
>> similar to the recent Aspect Security web site update. Perhaps
>> protect/detect/lifecycle as on the projects page.
>> Member companies should go to the top, to the side, for the reasons cited
>> below. I turned many people during ASVS' development into ASVS reviewers
>> once they scrolled to the bottom.
>> There is merit to the manifesto thing as mentioned above, the visible
>> thing is a starting point but isn't all that it could be; here's a starting
>> point for discussion: (1)A Web application may not disclose or modify user
>> data without a data owner's permission or, through inaction, allow
>> unauthorized disclosure or modification of user data. (2)A Web application
>> must obey any inputs given to it by users or external systems, except where
>> such orders would conflict with the First Law. (3)A Web application must
>> protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with
>> the First or Second Law.
>> I'm not sure the media thing is actionable, other than adding a link to an
>> OWASP POC to respond to media inquiries.
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 3:16 PM, McGovern, James F (HTSC, IT) <
>> James.McGovern at thehartford.com> wrote:
>>> Figured I would share some marketing oriented thoughts regarding OWASP
>>> with a focus on our web presence. If you feel I am full of it, then reply
>>> back :-)
>>> - The OWASP website is not relatable. Who is the intended audience?
>>> Should we guide folks based on the roles they play?
>>> - There is nothing to speak to the legitimacy of OWASP ..... until
>>> you scroll down to the bottom and see the corporate endorsements. Those
>>> should be higher up on the screen. For those who will debate legitimacy, we
>>> have to acknowledge that the masses within IT get giddy when they see
>>> famiilar logos. Think folks who love Gartner Magic Quadrants.
>>> - Also on the home page there is nothing about what (specific)
>>> problem(s) OWASP addresses and fixes. Somewhat sporadic information. We need
>>> something more than making web application security visible.
>>> - Are there any quotes from people/organizations that were helped by
>>> OWASP involvement? Testimonials would attract more attention. Have folks
>>> seen the Agile Manifesto and the signatories page? We should do something
>>> - Media coverage generally depends on a "face" to work their story.
>>> There are likely several angles you can utilize such as the "nimbleness" of
>>> a community vs. a corporation in solving a problem. How about a feature
>>> covering who are some of its participants. Sort of a personal profile.
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Eoin Keary CISSP CISA
OWASP Code Review Guide Lead Author
OWASP Ireland Chapter Lead
OWASP Global Committee Member (Industry)
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