[Owasp-leaders] Mailing list madness

Helen Gao owasp.li at gmail.com
Wed Sep 16 14:09:07 EDT 2009


Tom,

I'm experienced in managing Internet group (Yahoo! group) and would like to
help.

Helen Gao
516-582-4943

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Tom Brennan - OWASP <tomb at owasp.org> wrote:

> Google Groups = easy for everyone
> http://groups.google.com/group/owasp-foundation
>
> <http://groups.google.com/group/owasp-foundation>The hardpart is the
> migration in a controlled manner and sounds like another project who has
> some bandwidth to spare?
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Brad Causey <bradcausey at owasp.org>wrote:
>
>> Yea I'm a member of a few other organizations that use the Google Groups,
>> and it is a fantastic alternative. I don't see much of a downside.
>>
>>
>> -Brad Causey
>> CISSP, MCSE, C|EH, CIFI, CGSP
>>
>> http://www.owasp.org
>> --
>> Never underestimate the time, expense, and effort an opponent will expend
>> to break a code. (Robert Morris)
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>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 8:48 AM, Pravir Chandra <chandra at owasp.org>wrote:
>>
>>> I also take issue with the notion that there's no reason for people to
>>> post to a list they're not subscribed to (for the same reasons as Rogan).
>>> It's a matter of whether you're building an inclusive or exclusive community
>>> around a given project. For my project, I'm trying to build a user community
>>> with open discussions and any little, tiny barrier-to-entry makes it far
>>> more difficult.
>>> However, I do understand the spam problem. Having moderated the CLASP
>>> list for 2+ years with this problem, yes it's a pain. BUT, if you set the
>>> auto-discard and occasionally check the moderation queue, it's manageable.
>>> I'm not saying this should be the config for every list, but it should be at
>>> the project leader's discretion to change it from a default-discard to a
>>> moderated list.
>>>
>>> Not to wander off the subject, by why are we (OWASP) still in the
>>> business of running a mailman instance in this day and age? We've already
>>> migrated all of email to Gmail, so why not migrate our lists to Google
>>> Groups (or some equivalent)? That solves the spam problem, adds a great
>>> forums/web interface and generally "just works". I'll volunteer the SAMM
>>> list as the first guinea pig for that migration since I really want/need the
>>> extra features.
>>>
>>> p.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Rogan Dawes <lists at dawes.za.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Laurence Casey wrote:
>>>> >  This is normal behavior since I have a script that runs to make sure
>>>> > all lists are configured in a way to help reduce spam. I would prefer
>>>> to
>>>> > keep it this way and not have a list with special exception. Their is
>>>> > not reason people should want to post to a list they are not
>>>> subscribed
>>>> > to anyway.
>>>> >
>>>> > --Larry
>>>>
>>>> Well, I take issue with the statement that people have no reason to want
>>>> to post to a list that they are not subscribed to. It is a fairly common
>>>> thing to have a single question, post to the list to get an answer, and
>>>> then vanish again.
>>>>
>>>> That said, having moderated a list that was configured the way that
>>>> Pravir is asking for, it's really not worth the effort dealing with all
>>>> the spam that was previously being bounced, and now suddenly needs to be
>>>> moderated.
>>>>
>>>> Larry's settings really are a good compromise between convenience for
>>>> the users and convenience for the list owner.
>>>>
>>>> Rogan
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 9/14/09 12:02 PM, "Pravir Chandra" <chandra at owasp.org> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     Apologies if I should be sending this some place more specific,
>>>> but
>>>> >     some mailing list settings have been driving me nuts and I'm not
>>>> >     sure who to ask.
>>>> >
>>>> >     For the SAMM mailing list, I made some settings changes to allow
>>>> >     non-members to post (with moderation) but after a few minutes of
>>>> it
>>>> >     working correctly, it seems to reset itself. Does anyone else have
>>>> >     this problem or am I just being dim somehow?
>>>> >
>>>> >     p.
>>>> >
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