[Owasp-leaders] Thank you voters!

Tom Brennan - OWASP tomb at owasp.org
Sat Nov 21 10:29:46 EST 2009

**Encourage, support and empower the selflessness* of our volunteer

The priceless tangible has been for many personal relationships that have
been developed and progress on the mission of OWASP

So all OWASP-LEADERS should take a hard look at what is going on @
http://www.owasp.org/index.php/Global_Committee_Pages and see how they can
help the defined tasks underway and continue to support peers that ALSO
volunteer brainpower, resources, energy and considerable time.

Tom Brennan
(973) 506-9303

On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 12:09 AM, dinis cruz <dinis.cruz at owasp.org> wrote:

> Just for the record, a place on the OWASP board is a 'license/mandate to
> work even more crazy hours for OWASP' (says he at 5am on a Sat morning),
> so it really doesn't suit people who want the position because they get the
> 'extra benefits' (whatever those are)
> I don't think that lack of performance from Board Members is not a big
> issue at the moment (If it is please raise it), but as the board
> grows/matures, it is definitely something that we will need to be aware of.
> Regarding the abuse of the 'OWASP Leadership brand' (i.e. people who want
> the role but don't put in the effort), I am much more worried about: chapter
> leaders, committee members and project leaders. This is quite a hot topic
> and one that will only get worse until we get a good grip on what exactly
> are the roles, responsibilities and expectations on OWASPs: Board Members,
> Committee Members, Chapter & Project Leaders (hey Tom B has been trying to a
> get a decent governance model for OWASP for 1 year now, and he is still not
> there :)  )
> The fact that we are talking about ways to game the election is already a
> great evolution since last year (or even 6 months ago) Board Member
> elections was not even on the agenda.
> Dinis
> 2009/11/20 McGovern, James F. (eBusiness) <James.McGovern at thehartford.com>
> Observing something that has the potential to be gamed (something I do a
>> lot of in my day job) that I wouldn't want us to solve for reactively.
>> If you are a vendor, why wouldn't you want to say that not only are you
>> OWASP connected, but your CXO sits on the board. Being on the board of a
>> non-profit sometimes benefits the individual more than the non-profit...
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>> [mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Rex Booth
>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:00 PM
>> To: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>> Cc: <owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Thank you voters!
>> Understood.  I guess I have two thoughts.
>> 1) what advantage would a company have in acquiring a seat on the board?
>> And would it be such an advantage that it's worth several thousand
>> dollars?  I simply don't see this happening.
>> 2) I think it would be very contrary to owasp principles to grant voting
>> enhanced voting rights to corporate entities.
>> Is this a serious concern of yours or just an academic exercise? :)
>> On Nov 20, 2009, at 1:30 PM, "McGovern, James F. (eBusiness)"
>> <James.McGovern at thehartford.com  > wrote:
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