[Owasp-leaders] Thank you voters!

Rex Booth rex.booth at owasp.org
Fri Nov 20 11:47:44 EST 2009


Why would a corporate member get more votes?

On Nov 20, 2009, at 10:35 AM, "McGovern, James F. (eBusiness)" <James.McGovern at thehartford.com 
 > wrote:

> How were corporate members handled? Should a corporate member get  
> more votes?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org [mailto:owasp-leaders- 
> bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of Jason Li
> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 10:20 AM
> To: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Thank you voters!
>
> That's not entirely correct.
>
> As announced a couple weeks ago on this list, all OWASP project and  
> chapter leaders (past and present) were given honorary OWASP  
> membership status. The list was compiled over the last several  
> months by the Global Projects Committee and Global Chapters  
> Committee and every attempt was made to try and identify past  
> leaders and contributors.
>
> All members (paid and honorary) were given the opportunity to vote  
> and as a result, the vast majority of the OWASP community was  
> eligible to vote.
>
> -Jason
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 10:12 AM, John Steven  
> <John.Steven at owasp.org> wrote:
>> James,
>>
>> As I undertand it, only paid members could vote. There is no
>> relationship between BSIMM relationships and paid OWASP membership. I
>> was just comparing the relative sizes of groups of "people who voted"
>> and "people who participated in the BSIMM study in one form or
>> another".
>>
>> That's why I'm going to scrape the BSIMM respondents/interview lists
>> for people I also see on the OWASP member list. The inverse of that
>> list makes for a good swath of people who could likely use increased
>> awareness of OWASP and a membership drive.
>>
>>  I will send an email to this list once I have data.
>> -jOHN
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 9:27 AM, McGovern, James F. (eBusiness)
>> <James.McGovern at thehartford.com> wrote:
>>> Several questions/thoughts:
>>>
>>> - Lots of folks participate in OWASP but a smaller demographic are
>>> actually paid members. Did voting only go to paid members?
>>> - For corporate memberships, how many votes do they get relative to
>>> individual membership?
>>> - What percentage of BSIMM respondents are paid OWASP members
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
>>> [mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of John
>>> Steven
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 3:42 PM
>>> To: owasp-leaders at lists.owasp.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] Thank you voters!
>>>
>>> You know guys,
>>>
>>> this IS a big milestone. Congratulations to both Matt and Eoin, I
>>> really liked your platforms. As my blog said, I liked all the
>>> candidates actually. More generally, I'm profoundly impressed that
>>> OWASP both voted new board members and that existing members will  
>>> stand for re-election.
>>> Let's not let that slip. The global summit commentary regarding
>>> pushing this same behavior into chapters moved me to action as well.
>>>
>>> To this end, I'm working to set up a program committee and a chapter
>>> board. I've asked chapter membership to suggest a term to my chapter
>>> leadership and I intend to stand for non-Karzai-style re-election as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> There's a lot of work to do though, as a community guys/gals. I hit
>>> Gary McGraw and Dan Cornell up for some quick numbers and then
>>> started doing some simple math.
>>>
>>> If you look at it, the voting population was roughly only 52% of the
>>> AppSec DC attendance. The voting population represented less than  
>>> 17%
>>> of the BSIMM study's respondents and their satellite security  
>>> resources.
>>> Pathetic. I'm going to attempt to correlate what the overlap between
>>> BSIMM respondents and OWASP members is (low overlap indicates a
>>> membership drive opportunity). these people already care enough to
>>> have a security group and participate in the study for chrissakes.
>>>
>>> I'm concerned because, modulo Dinis' "[Carp] I forgot to vote" :-P,
>>> this indicates OWASP has a long way to go before industry ... heck,
>>> it's own membership ... sees the board as something it can influence
>>> and that's valuable for them to spend their time thinking about /  
>>> influencing.
>>>
>>> Joe (RBS), myself, an one-or-two others spoke about industry  
>>> outreach
>>> and I think this is a good place to start addressing that problem.
>>>
>>> -jOHN
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Pravir Chandra <chandra at owasp.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> My sentiments exactly. Thanks to all who voted and congrats to Eoin
>>>> and Matt. They certainly deserve it!
>>>> This really is a milestone for the OWASP organization since we've
>>>> completed our first ever Board election. I'm very proud of what
>>>> we've all built together.
>>>> p.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:32 PM, kuai hinojosa
>>>> <kuai.hinojosa at owasp.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I want to thank all the voters that emailed me saying they had
>>>>> voted for me, it really make this a positive experience!! I feel
>>>>> like I won
>>>
>>>>> :D
>>>>>
>>>>> To the winners congrats again, and please don't forget to count on
>>>>> Pravir and I to help you accomplish your goals!
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kuai Hinojosa
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