[Owasp-leaders] Question on ISACA

McGovern, James F. (eBusiness) James.McGovern at thehartford.com
Wed Nov 4 14:15:58 EST 2009


Eoin, I think your take on SAMM is interesting. I think the difference
is not to look for evidence but to measure against controls. Auditors
use the notion of controls to figure out good vs bad and is less fluid /
abstract that simply seeking evidence. I wonder if Pravir or others that
thought about expanding SAMM to include audit language.

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Re understanding what secure codeing is:
 
Taking a look at the OWASP development guides and Code review guide is a
start: The intro sections cover what a secure SDLC whould look like etc.
Looking at SAMM can indicate what is required also by examining the
domains and mapping onto the SDLC
 
Re auditing: (it's not just secure coding, its the whole kahuna)
 
Evidence of developer training is a good start
 
Evidence Secure coding guidelines are nice to see, event better if they
have a review history (looked used!). 
A generic secure application development policy could be used which can
be linked to technolofy specific guidelines
 
Evidence of review and adherence to them.
 
Evidence of negative testing, negative use cases anti patterns & threat
modeling
 
but there is more.......
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
2009/11/4 McGovern, James F. (eBusiness)
<James.McGovern at thehartford.com>


	John Morency of Gartner just finished giving a presentation to
our IT executives and one of the observations is that IT auditors have
zero clue as to how to audit a secure coding practice. IT audit right
now is limited to simply looking at "control" documents and viewing
things through the lens of "infrastructure". Is there something we as a
community should be doing to make auditors smarter?

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