[Owasp-leaders] OWASP Podcast Series

Jeff Williams jeff.williams at owasp.org
Fri Dec 12 12:27:56 EST 2008

Hi Leaders,

Andre's sense of humor probably didn't translate well to everyone. Jeremiah
is one of the leading experts in application security and has worked with
OWASP on numerous projects. He's also a great guy and extremely savvy.  The
leaders list probably isn't such a good forum for cracking tongue-in-cheek
jokes about people.


-----Original Message-----
From: owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org
[mailto:owasp-leaders-bounces at lists.owasp.org] On Behalf Of David Campbell
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 8:27 PM
To: Jim Manico
Cc: Owasp-Leaders at Lists.Owasp
Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] OWASP Podcast Series

I haven't heard the mp3 yet but I do know that Jeremiah absolutely  
knows his stuff

If he wasn't keeping up he was probably distracted

If the sound quality is poor you can improve it a bit by normalizing etc

Lemme know if you need help with that



On Dec 11, 2008, at 16:40, "Jim Manico"  
<jim.manico at aspectsecurity.com> wrote:

> Andre,
> I have a somewhat complex answer for you here:
> 1) Jeremiah Grossman is someone who although I might not agree with  
> all
> the times, is a rather respectful member of the AppSec community. He  
> is
> trying his best and I felt grateful that he participated in the  
> podcast.
> 2) I want to make sure we invite a wide range of speakers to the  
> podcast
> series. This is a new industry and we all have a lot to learn -  
> getting
> different perspectives will be of service to the community, IMO.
> 3) I'm a fan of your blog, and I'd like to interview you someday for  
> the
> series. But really, how does trashing Jeremiah (or anyone, really)  
> help
> the cause? We have better ways to spend our valuable energy. I hope  
> that
> if we interview you, that we can find a way to approach this topic  
> in a
> positive light, even when we disagree with others.
> -Jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andre Gironda [mailto:andreg at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 4:15 PM
> To: Owasp-Leaders at Lists.Owasp
> Cc: Jim Manico; Laurence Casey
> Subject: Re: [Owasp-leaders] OWASP Podcast Series
> On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 12:35 PM, Jim Manico
> <jim.manico at aspectsecurity.com> wrote:
>> 3)      The first OWASP podcast was recorded on November 21st and is
> located
>> on my personal account at http://www.manico.net/final.mp3 - please do
> not
>> pass this url around, but feel free to listen in and provide  
>> feedback.
> The
>> audio quality is not great, this is just my first attempt, and it  
>> will
> get
>> better.
> Jim,
> It was awesome!  I listened to it a few weeks ago and was really
> impressed with the whole podcast.  Arshan and Jeff were great, as
> always.
> Just one question, though.  Who is Jeremiah Grossman?  He didn't
> really seem qualified to answer any of your questions and couldn't
> really keep up with the conversation.  I was kind of surprised that
> you interviewed some no-namer who didn't know much about the subject
> matter.  Maybe you can prep your guests more ahead of time?
> Cheers,
> Andre
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