[Owasp-leaders] 60/40 Membership Drive @ OWASP

Jeremy Epstein jeremy.j.epstein at gmail.com
Wed Dec 10 21:05:58 EST 2008

Relatively new to the list here, and speaking for myself alone.

I pay around $150/year (each) to belong to ACM, IEEE, and USENIX, and
have been doing this for 20+ years, and have almost never been
reimbursed by an employer.  For that money, I get several things:

(1) Some magazines
(2) Discounts at some conferences (esp with USENIX)
(3) (Perceived) professionalism, especially for IEEE & ACM

If OWASP wants me to give in that same ballpark (e.g., $100/year as
was tossed around), I would want to see one or more things from that
list.  So far I don't see any of them.  Tsochkes (such as T-shirts or
coffee mugs) aren't going to get me to give.  And I think that's
probably true of most potential members.

Also a note (since someone mentioned it) that professional "dues" are
not generally tax deductible in the US, while contributions are (to
the extent that you get less of "value" than you pay - which is why if
you give $100 to public radio and get a coffee mug, your receipt will
say only $90 is deductible).  So if we start making membership
mandatory to attend meetings, our members will lose deductibility
since it ceases to become a contribution and starts becoming dues.
(Yes, if you're a consultant you may be able to write off dues against
your income as a business expense; and if you itemize you may be able
to subtract dues to the extent that they exceed 7.5% of your taxable
income.  Consult your tax advisor, not me, for goodness sake!)


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